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birthday? why wasn't I told? have a drink and a good one!

1971, Brötzmann/Van Hove/Bennink plus Albert Mangelsdorff - Elements (FMP), ctd the next day

1977, Emil Viklický - The Folk Inspired Jazz Piano (Supraphon) 1982, Remy Filipovitch - All Day Long (Atlas), ctd the next day

the lab was performing these tests on anonymised samples. If they cannot make the link, that does not mean no link exists. The UCI and WADA can make the link.

"They're Big, But Not As Big As Her...." Teeth!

So if nothing can be done, why test these old samples for a second time, 6 years after the fact? ← They wanted to test their methods and also wanted to get a grip on how widespread the use of this stuff was. EPO has been one of the most used substances that has skewed many sports results in many disciplines. The results of this Tour-test are pretty shocking. This may mean that in future there will be more samples stored, maybe also blood, I don't know. It all may seem silly, but getting away with using shit just because it cannot be detected and it doesn't technically count anymore once it can be, will not help in cleaning up the sport and the athletes. Meanwhile, there is too much money going around in this sport to allow for it to be decided in secretive shadows. An more importantly - and as brownie pointed out - the sport has taken many blows already in the past. It does not need Armstrong to play its hero, not if he turns out to be another wolf in sheep's wool.

It is of course also Armstrong's self-made image of the dope-free crusader for a clean sport. His little speech against all the cynics and the sceptics at the end of this year's tour somehow lost lots of its impact. He told us to believe in the athletes, that there are no secrets, and that it's all just about hard work. Sure Lance... ← Actually, in this country, Armstrong's self-made image is that of the man who beat cancer and won the Tour. The rest of it means little or nothing. ← Yes, but that's only because in your country the Tour means little or nothing more than that it's the ditty that Armstrong won several times over. See, in the eyes of some people over here, the guy has been eating away at a Yurpeen tradition and goes on to polish himself up to be some Saint. Well, he ain't.

It is of course also Armstrong's self-made image of the dope-free crusader for a clean sport. His little speech against all the cynics and the sceptics at the end of this year's tour somehow lost lots of its impact. He told us to believe in the athletes, that there are no secrets, and that it's all just about hard work. Sure Lance...

The developments in the doping business are faster than in the detection business. Armstrong used EPO during the 1999 Tour, the detection of this substance was only possible in 2001, I believe, at least as officially recognised by the cycling union. The results now published are from samples taken at random from stored frozen urin "backup" samples covering multiple years. When an illegal substance is found, there is a second sample or a blood sample, which then also has to be tested positively, before any measures are taken. Of course this is not possible for samples taken 6 years ago: the first sample was tested and nothing was found wrong. Only now they check the second sample with a new detection scheme and do find something wrong. There can be no replication of the test results (first and second sample) and so Armstrong gets away scott free. Just shitty that from the many random samples taken, 6 of those tested positive belong to Armstrong. So although no real backup samples are available to take measures according to the rules, there is still some doubling of results that is "interesting" to say the very least.

This, though, he's been relatively honest about, hasn't he? I think I remeber some American journalist asking whether he thought himself the "greatest cycler ever" and he mentioned exactly this (Something like "I'm not really a cyclist in the sense that people like Delgado or Indurain are. I just do the tour.") --eric ← his honesty doesn't change the fact that he is not deeply rooted in the scene, does it? So it doesn't change a thing about the sentiments and fixations.

I'll spin this disk again to digest the answers and while checking back on my guesses. thanks much for a great ride.

the fixation is likely related to the bad state french cyclism is in and certainly also to the fact that Armstrong is not part of the true tradition of the sport, which lies in the gloomy classics in early february or late september on bumpy roads in little towns where people live that are related less than three degrees away to the folks driving by. Armstrong sought out the most prestigious and went for that and only that. Not necessarily the best way to win the hearts of the European press corps that grew up with the sport and knows it from much more up close than distant Texas and who is by default in favour of the underdog.

Lee Morgan's Cornbread and Charisma spring to mind.

a pity that hardly anyone will understand these gems by Johan Cruyff. with stuff like: -"If we have the ball, they cannot make a goal." -"the truth is never like you thought it would be." or most famous of them all: -"every disadvantage has its advantage."

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10713 http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=19615 http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20286

I tried to get the bigger file from the site, but it turned out a dead link. There is only so much magic one can apply to bad graphics.

1952, Ben Pollack records for Savoy 1961, Lee Konitz recording session for Verve, released on the Verve Elite 3CD issue of Motion

1976, Cecil Taylor - Air Above Mountains (enja)

Never saw the vinyl, tell me, is the 10+ minute silence and the "telephone conversation" on the fourth side, or how was this constructed? Great album BTW, very nicely connected through all the snippets and sounds ← Side 4 is all silent grooves except for a short (about one minute) phone conversation from Rahsaan at the end of it! Missed this until I saw it mentioned several years ago! ← it scared me a whole lot when I spun the CD one day and was busy with other things when it had ended and all of a sudden Rahsaan was breathing loud into my speakers! Then the "3 sided" part of the title suddenly made sense to me, but I never got around to asking whether my idea was correct. So thanks for confirming. Judging from your missing out on it for all that time, I guess these "gimmicks" were not all that effective in the LP era. Rahsaan was much ahead of his time!

Never saw the vinyl, tell me, is the 10+ minute silence and the "telephone conversation" on the fourth side, or how was this constructed? Great album BTW, very nicely connected through all the snippets and sounds

moi trois -_-

no Linux, just that somehow I could access all the info on all the CProt CDs I put into my drive. I like to customise my machine & software plenty much, but in this case, there was nothing to customise, it just worked. Can it be that some drives simply are not fooled by the double ToC on these CProt disks?

If I am an average user, I can only say that it isn't really all that complicated. It's so easy and I am so average, I do not even know what I did to make my collection of copy protected CDs rippable and mp3-able and whatnotable. And I mean the actual music content, not the crappy files also hidden on the discs. This is why I hardly ever know a solution: I never had the problem in the first place! As for the masterings: I heard (and saw) some pretty crappy shitte too off late.

yup, just realised that too. Let's just wait and see then.

FWIW, there is no mention of these being CProt over at amazon.de. As there is mention of CProt for the upcoming RVGs, I guess this means that the Legacy disks will be regular CDs.