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It would help to know what the basis is for measuring their relative intelligence. The list just came from the "CBS Early Show", so there's no way to know how they ranked the breeds.

Not to disparage the worthy sentiment at all, but shouldn't that read 114th anniversary of her birth?

Eliane Elias - Something For You - Eliane Elias Sings & Plays Bill Evans ....anybody have this one? Is it worth sticking in the queue? jeez, BMG/yourmusic is slow of late....again. Also, I'm getting a number of warnings about items in my queue that aren't going to be around much longer. If you've got something in your queue that you want, you might want to check.

My apology was because I took a stand about something, and then realized I needed to be consistent about what I was defending. But feel free to make fun of it anyway. And as was expressed to me in a private message this evening, a joke here and there, or an occasional comment is probably not that big a deal in the bigger picture, and is probably normal. Most people probably understand that. But threads that objectify women don't really help promote healthy discussion. If only one female is bothered by them (and it's clear that at least one has been), then it's an uncomfortable environment. And I'm not accusing you (Jim) of being sexist, personally. But we do have board members that have caused *other* boards to be shut down due to offensive sexist comments (BNBB anyone?). So not everyone is as evolved as you.

In the spirit of being honest with myself, I have posted trombone-babe pics elsewhere on this board, so I'm as guilty as anyone else who's posted this sort of thing. The posts were meant as sort of inside jokes to specific other board members, but reflecting back after this thread, I can see how it might come across to others, so I want to apologize for contributing to some of the "boys club" mentality here myself.

I won't profess to speak for seeline or anyone else, but creating an environment where it's ok to post sexy female pictures or videos can be intimidating or at the very least uncomfortable for many females, I would think.

I'm in for some of that!!! I still think topics like sexy videos and sexy pictures aren't appropriate, if we wish to respect all board members. I know there are some female board members that don't care one way or the other, and that's fine too. However, it's not really about your intent, it's how it comes across to those females who it DOES offend, or at the very least bother. My company just gave us our annual (or bi-annual, I forget) sexual harrassment training, and there were many scenarios we were shown. Some seemed clearly to be harrassment, others didn't. Some of my female co-workers saw harrassment, or hostile environments, where I (and some male co workers) saw none. Again, it's how it's perceived by others, not by what you intend. PS - Kudos to Jim for bringing his kids up with good values that will get them far in the world. Not everybody gets those same values though.

I tend to agree with Seeline. Threads like this (and the other sexy women thread) don't promote equal dialog with women, but rather objectify women. I've seen the arguments that have come up previously - that it's just the way guys are wired, it's natural to be attracted to feminine beauty, etc. But I wouldn't think that posting pictures and videos of women that we think are sexy, is going to inspire women to want to talk with the guys on this board about music and other topics, if they're looked at like they're women first, and then their thoughts and ideas come second.

Knee ligament. It's a pretty well known sports injury in humans, hadn't heard of it happening to a dog before. ACL Hope Coltrane gets well quickly!

Maybe "sexist" is misspelled in the title...

I bet it just recently came up on his word-a-day calendar.

Jim's 50/50 thing isn't related to any odds. He's just saying he has two choices - stay or change.

How do you guarantee that you've chosen correctly? I'd like to have that talent!

Switching or not switching ARE the only choices you have, so it IS a binary decision (either/or), which I think is what you're trying to say. But it's still a 67/33 split of likelihoods, not 50/50.

Then that means you have three choices to make - switch, don't switch, and....? No it doesn't. the 66-33 is still dealing with only two alternatives - switching or staying. There are four separate scenarios though, one of which WILL play out: 1 - stay with door A and be correct (33% likelihood of this happening) 2 - stay with door A and be wrong (67% likelihood of this happening) 3 - switch to door B+C and be correct (67% likelihood of this happening) 4 - switch to door B+C and be wrong (33% likelihood of this happening)

I don't think that's true. Well, here we go back to what everybody's been saying all along - you got two choices, right or wrong. 50-50. I still think it's "two choices, right (switch) or wrong (stay), 66-33." And I was one of the few that started out kinda thinking like you are, I think. Making the right choice is switching, 66% of the time. Making the right choice is staying with your original door, 33% of the time. I still say you have a 66-33 chance at getting the 2 out of 3 chance.

Indeed, the will apply every time. But they will not come through every time. Remind me to play poker with you some time... That's very true. Odds can be in your favor and you can still lose, or odds can be against you and you can still win. That's why so many people play the lottery. Not worth throwing away my money.

Nice review. I've enjoyed the Sco shows I've been to quite a bit. Also, Phil G's a board member here, and I know he was looking forward to this tour.

I don't think that's true.

Outcome A = winning the car Outcome B= losing the car You can still win the car with the 33% likelihood (by keeping with Door A), or lose the car even with the 67% likelihood of winning (by swithing to Door B+C). It's just a probability. You still had two choices. But it wasn't a 50/50 thing. There's no way to guarantee the win (unless you're Monty and know which door has the car).

I think basically what Jim's saying is that you have two choices - switch or don't switch. He's saying that you have an either/or decision, which isn't the same thing as a 50/50 chance of winning the car.

That's the odds of winning the car. What are the odds that you made the right choice to do so? The odds of having made the right choice by picking Door A would be 33%. And the odds of having made the right choice by picking Door B+C would be 67%. Even though there are only two choices.

If a car is placed behind one of three doors, randomly, and if you were offered a choice of what's behind (Door A) or what's behind (Door B+Door C), you'd pick (Door B+DoorC) wouldn't you? Just about every time? It's a 50/50 choice (i.e. either the one door or the set of two doors), but the odds of winning the car by picking the two door set is greater. By a 2 to 1 margin.