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That's very sad to hear. He was a real fixture here in NY back in the day. He taught a lot of tenor players I've played with, and some even played in that big band with him on Lawnguyland when they were still in high school. One guy I knew even lived with him for a few years. He was a musical genius; you could play him some Sonny Rollins record, and he could write out the tenor solo, without a horn, after just listening to it ONCE!!!! According to all the tenor players that knew him, he wasn't really into that stuff he played with Miles and Elvin; his heart was into the real stuff- BOP. There are some monster tenor players former students of his out there, who are going to be really broken up about this, but some of them picked up some bad 'habits' from him, so maybe that would temper their feelings a bit... One funny story I heard from one tenor player who caught him live somewhere was that SG saw the guy digging his playing, so SG asked him if he was a tenor player, and wanted to take lessons with him. The guy said, "Yeah!" So Steve said to him, "Okay give me $60 right now, and we'll have the lesson sometime soon". RIP, to a true musical genius.
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Yes, I remember you mentioning that time you saw Farlow. You must have gotten lucky. Every time I saw him, or heard any of his post-1960 recordings, he didn't sound anywhere near the level he was playing at in the 50s, which I still believe represents the highest level of bop playing on the guitar (especially the recordings with Costa). Something was interfering with the timing between his picking and fingering in his post 1960s playing, and people that were close to him inferred that it had something to do with alcohol. He came to hear me playing at a club, and we went out to breakfast afterward (I still have the receipt), and he seemed like a quiet, humble person. In Evans' case, he was mainlining cocaine, and according to one of his ex-students, who visited him at the hospital, he wanted to die.
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It is unfortunate that some jazz musicians stay on long after they should have stopped playing (in Evans' case, he probably should have been locked up in a 24/7 rehab hospital for a year or two), in some cases, like Evans for a couple of years, in other cases, like Tal Farlow, after 1959, in Phil Woods' case, after he had to carry around an oxygen tank with him, etc.., but some of them have to eat, some of them (like Evans) seem to have a death drive, while others (Woods) have some type of 'dream' they must fulfill.
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Bob Rose, the guitarist from Philadelphia who played on the two Pat Martino albums mentioned above, just passed away at the age of 82, after a battle with lung cancer and COPD When I bought "The Visit" on vinyl as a kiddie, I imagined that he was this very serious professional guitarist. When I was working at a big theater in NY as part of the house pit band, I always asked the guys in the band, who the touring acts used on guitar when brought their own rhythm section. One time it was Bob Rose, and I thought that was so cool. He was a freelance jazz/commercial/studio player, who played in many different genres. He was the guitarist on the "Twin Peaks" theme, as well as playing with Todd Rundgren, and many other artists of all varieties. Here is a great interview with him. he seemed like he would've been a great hang! https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/rip-bob-rose-rhythm-guitar-player-for-pat-martino.2174987/#post-3102023 Being a professional musician all his life, in addition to trying to run a recording studio, which he wound up losing all his investment in (which he explains on the tape), the illness left him broke, so if you want to donate a few bucks to help pay for his burial, here's a GOFUNDME link: https://www.gofundme.com/f/bobby-rose-medical-fund
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21st Century Schizoid Man big band chart
sgcim replied to slide_advantage_redoux's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I'd love to hear it! I just finished a big band arr. of "ITTTW", but the three big bands I play in won't be playing anytime soon. -
There's no doubt that when Evans was addicted to cocaine, he rushed the tempo, and he and PJJ were probably snorting together. As GOM quoted the review of the 'album' "I Love You" came from, " It is not a good recording technically with noticeable drop outs, thud-like drums, crashing cymbals, and muffled bass. Also, the re-mastering seems to have overlooked the need for concert A-440 pitch - everything seems sharp". I don't listen to any of Evans' bootleg albums, because they weren't intended for release. Probably if Evans was alive to listen to them, he would have not allowed their release.
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Yes, "An Unsung Cat" is a great study of Warne's music. You're not going to get much from a novel.
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You're right, I could have been clearer. Evans studied with Tristano, so he might agree with you. It's hard to say, "I prefer X to Y in terms of a jazz pianist's career. They go through different periods, as with Costa. At one time I loved the "Eddie Costa Trio album on Jubilee, but now I find it kind of predictable compared to his later period, consisting of "House of Blue Lights" the Shelly Manne album, etc... Evans had a much longer career, and I prefer certain periods to other periods. The last time he played at the VV, I had no idea what he was doing with his complex time/harmonic displacements, but further listening to it afforded clearer understanding and enjoyment of what he was doing. They're all available on Pro Quest. I would go with the last study, just on the basis that I used to gig with the author's husband, and he was a real PITA. Here's some info on the last study: An analysis of Bill Evans' approach to playing the melody of selected jazz ballads Cankaya, M. I. Can. The William Paterson University of New Jersey, ProQuest Dissertations Publishing, 2009. 1465725. PDFDownload PDF CiteCite Email PrintAll Options
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Or this: This study sought to identify the contributions made to the jazz medium by pianist Bill Evans, through the musical analysis of selected solo performances and an investigation of his life, career, and recorded output. The biographical account of Bill Evans' life focused on his musical training and the development of his musical style. The evolution of his career was documented, as were the events which affected his life and the people with whom he associated. Through an examination of Evans' recorded output, many aspects of his musical preferences were revealed, such as the musical settings in which he liked to perform, the nature of his repertoire, and the rhythmic and tonal structure of his musical arrangements. The discussion of his discography was supplemented by the critical reviews that accompanied the release of his recordings in order to illustrate the high regard in which he was held. Based on the data concerning the composition of Evans' musical arrangements, four representative piano solos were selected for analysis, three of which were subsequently transcribed by the researcher. The style analyses utilized techniques drawn from the analytic methods of Jan LaRue, Jerry Coker, and Heinrich Schenker. Conclusions drawn from the style analyses provided the basis for a pedagogical guide through which the stylistic characteristics of Bill Evans' musical style may be applied to the teaching of jazz piano. The outcomes suggested that although Bill Evans was traditional in his approach to jazz, he was also innovative. He drew from many sources, using existing jazz materials as the basis of his style, and building upon them to create something new. His contributions to the jazz piano style were manifested in his development of various types of open and close chord voicings, his skillful use of harmonic substitutions and quartal harmonies, his extensive use of motivic development, and the application of both rhythmic displacement and polyrhythmic concepts. More Details Subject Music education; Music; Biographies Classification 0522: Music education 0413: Music 0304: Biographies Identifier / keyword Communication and the arts; Education; Language, literature and linguistics; Evans, Bill Title Bill Evans: His contributions as a jazz pianist and an analysis of his musical style Author Berardinelli, Paula Number of pages 351 Publication year 1992 Degree date Or this: This thesis shows Bill Evans' approach to playing the melody on jazz ballads. Understanding Evans' specific contributions to the jazz piano literature through the interpretation of jazz ballad melodies is important for jazz musicians who study modern jazz piano. Yet, this aspect of his playing is under-analyzed in the analytical literature about Evans' piano style. For this study, four of Evans' interpretations of standard jazz ballads were selected for analysis from the album Alone. These were: "Here's That Rainy Day," "A Time for Love" "Never Let Me Go," and "On A Clear Day (You Can See Forever)". Devices Evans used for the interpretation of the original melodies were: Diminution and augmentations, rhythmic displacements, drop voicings, inner lines, rubato, substitute chords, voice leading, chord anticipations, fills, chromatic approach chords, left hand lines, melody with thirds, fourths, fifths and sixths, contrary motion and use of changing key centers. Evans effectively combined all of these devices together to produce his own original, significant, and influential solo piano style. 1992
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Bill Evans' music is so deep and layered, a friend of mine has devoted his life to studying, transcribing and analyzing his improvisational idea since the age of eleven. He's now 66, and is still working at it. Before the pandemic, he was working on doing a stint as a guest lecturer at The Bill Evans Piano Institute in Paris, France. As far as the specifics of his musical thought, you might want to look at studies such as this. You might still hate him, but at least you'd have a better idea of why you hate him Patterns have a long and deep history in the tradition of improvisation. Jazz musicians often use the tonal frameworks of tunes from the Great American Songbook as plans for their improvisations. On top of these tonal plans, players may draw from a set of memorized licks. The present study mediates between these two levels of structure by codifying specific melodic frameworks at the level of the phrase in the solos of jazz pianist Bill Evans. Analyses show that Evans utilized the same melodic frameworks in different performances, but used them to create new melodic lines. These frameworks provide specific ways of navigating the voice-leading strands of a tune, often referred to as guide tones in the study of jazz harmony. At the same time, they allow the performer the flexibility and freedom to create new melodic material in each performance, since they can be elaborated in different ways. Although Evans left no extant descriptions of his own structural models for many of the tunes he played, his repeated performances of certain tunes throughout his career offer a way to determine the melodic models used in his solos. The present study compares different performances of the same tune with one another, as a performance family, codifying melodic frameworks that occur across each set of performances. In addition, since many of the underlying phrase models of standard tunes occur across the repertoire, comparisons can be made between Evans's performances of different tunes. Wherever the fixed aspects can be understood as governing the variable aspects, the fixed elements can be conceived as structural frames for the solo. Acknowledging the existence of such cross-performance structures provides insight into one kind of knowledge that a player can have when approaching a jazz performance, and aligns with the study of expert behavior by cognitive psychologists. At the same time, positing such structures blurs the traditional distinction between composition and improvisation. In Evans's case, comparing multiple performances of the same tune provides one way to distinguish learned from improvised behavior, illuminating a level of invariant structure that mediates between the global tonal plan and local licks. Since they exist at the level of the phrase and are neither as general as a tonal plan nor as succinct as licks, these melodic frameworks can be useful in jazz pedagogy as a fruitful starting point for aspiring improvisers. Less
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Hindemith's "Craft of Musical Composition" books were pretty stupid, but when the American composer John Cacavas studied with him privately, he said to Hindemith, "Maestro, I worked through all of your 'Craft' books, but they don't show me how to compose music on the level of Mathis der Maler, The Four Temperments, The Viola Concerto, etc.... Hindemith answered him with words to the effect of, "Do you really think I'd reveal the secrets of my greatest works for a puny four dollar book?" Hold a seance, and ask Glenn Gould what he thought of Hindemith's music.
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I was talking pianists.
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I can only answer the first part of that by quoting Hindemith: "We only have twelve tones in music, therefore we must be very careful about how we use those twelve tones" (or something to that effect). As for the second part, maybe Evans was thinking about the excesses of Lizst. All I know is that I love Russell's early music, and then he reached a point where it was too blobby and sloppy and messy for me. YMMV.
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Yes, and he was able to play the "bejeezus" out of it without any influence of George Russell at all. That kind of destroys Jim's theory about there would be no Bill Evans without George Russell. Like Phil Woods ( another great player I've had to 'defend' against you and Jim) Bill Evans was a composer/arranger's dream. He could sight read anything (Evans' ability to sight read Babbitt's "All Set" complete with dynamics and articulations(!) amazed Gunther Schuller to such an extent, that he used Evans on some of his Third-Stream performances and recordings), and then enhance the piece to such an extent through his own tasteful contributions, that the piece becomes something greater than it would be had the arr./composer hired anyone else. On top of all that, Evans would bring an improvisational genius that was unequaled during his time. I was surprised to recently read that it was Evans' changes that Sheila Jordan used on "If You Could See Me Now" on her recording with Barry Galbraith and Steve Swallow, and not George Russell's, as it was assumed. Evans jotted down the changes on a book of matches for her. Oh yeah, I'm sure you're gonna find a lot of jazz fans that prefer JG + PB over MD + BE. Read Larry's quoting of the first meeting of Evans and Russell.
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As much as I love George Russell's EARLY music, none of it sounds like KOB. If you read both of their biographies, especially GR's, you'd know that GR's great early works (IMHO) were NOT informed by his LCC, but by the European 20th Century composers, whose scores he studied at the time. This is explicitly stated in the Russell biography. By the same token, Bill Evans' remarkable sight reading ability allowed him access to the modal music of numerous composers (not just Ravel and Debussy), and his close friend Glenn Gould, called Evans "The Scriabin of Jazz". To ignore Evans' monumental contributions to the harmonic materials of KOB, and suggest that Russell was the main influence on KOB is to ignore all the facts about the session: 1) Davis could NOT do the music he wanted to do on KOB without Evans. Garland and Kelley did not have the harmonic background Evans had absorbed from the countless scores he read through in his practice sessions. Tony Scott even mentioned that he was hanging around Evans' apartment one day, and heard Satie (whose harmony is as strong an influence on KOB as Debussy and Ravel) being played for the first time by Evans. 2) Garland and Kelley did not have the touch that Evans had to perform the type of music on KOB that differentiates itself from Miles' previous work. 3) Each musician brought their own thing to the performances, and most were first takes. This means that all the harmonic things were entirely Evans' own, and Miles claimed credit for Blue in Green and Flamenco Sketches which, according to the great American composer Earl Zindars, Evans played long before KOB 4) Just because Russell showed Davis what a mode was one night for ten minutes, does not mean he had much to do with KOB 5) Evans' work with Russell did not produce music that sounded anything like KOB. I remember loaning a PHD musician who loved KOB, my fave album at the time, Geo. Russell's "Jazz Workshop" and he returned it in disgust saying that he hated that type of music and it doesn't sound anything like KOB. 6) Paul Bley's non-free playing had nowhere near the harmonic vocabulary that Evans had, especially at that time, Evans understood what Bley was doing during their free duet on Russell's Living Time, but said it was not for him, because playing free is taking the easy way out regarding jazz improvisation.Thank God that Russell chose Bley for his LCC music, and Evans for his early music recordings. Evans still did those two, IMHO, tasteless later Russell record dates, but it was more out of friendship than for musical reasons. Friends of mine who went to NEC back in the 80s said most of the students ridiculed Russell and his LCC music, behind his back.
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That Anne Phillips album brings back memories. My father used to buy one album a week when I was a kid. Why did he buy it? It was either on sale, or he dug the way AP looked. I remember liking the album, even as a kid. It turned out that she was a talented pianist, arranger, composer and conductor, who had quite a career, and she's still going, with her own website! Here's the full album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6qvQVeMro
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We've been working on the "Jacy Case" for almost 46 years now, and we've handed it over to our top Jazz detective, Jonathan Staccato, who has taken into account a thorough description of the victim involved, extremely attractive female, hard swinging pianist and singer, and come up with a profile of the unsub: 1) Wealthy male in his mid-80s, with the necessary amount of wealth to isolate the victim in a cage, large enough to fit a Grand piano, microphone boom stand, premium PA system and toilet and shower. 2) Said male obviously a "Jazz Freak". 3) Said male obviously a perv, who enjoys filming Jacy naked each night singing suggestive Cole Porter tunes and the like, while he adds to his DVD collection of her performances. 4) Said male probably contains intense knowledge of genetic techniques such as cloning, splicing, etc..., because he has most likely been breeding Jacies over the years, due to the natural decay of the original Jacy. We've made substantial progress over the 46 odd years that this case has been passed over from investigator to investigator due to factors such as retirement, burnout, frustration, etc..., and expect results within the next decade or so. That is alll. JS
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The program somehow threw my comment inside your post! I just said that the arrangement for Easy Street, sung by Easy Williams had some type of absurd, loud circus whistle/jingle bells thing to shock the schlitz out of you, because she and the bass player were so quiet. Some funny stuff.
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I took the dare! The sequel album has better arrangements than the first one, which was largely unison and octave writing with some interesting counter melodies, but the first one is my fave because everyone gets enough solo time to do their thing. ML had a tentet to work with in the second one, so he could use more harmony in the parts, but most of the tunes were under three minutes, so the players got one or two choruses at most, with ML getting the lion's share of the solo work. The first album had more high points, with outstanding solos by each player on their feature. Donald Byrd played a fine solo on his feature, Jimmy Cleveland played a smokin' high octave solo on his thing, Costa got a chance to do his great octaves and percussive thing, and of course, Tony Scott went into his Ben Webster bag for "Riff Blues" (Mike Hammer theme) and stole the entire show. Herbie Mann was just there, as usual. Mundy was much more bluesy on this one, and the rhythm section was fine. The second album had no real high points, other than Mundell's much more swinging solos than on the first album. Scott was replaced by a fine studio musician, who was never known for anything special as far as jazz improvisation was concerned. Byrd was replaced by CT, who played fine as usual, but never got enough time to really take off, as shown by his ending one short solo with a fantastic double time figure, as if to say, "This is what I could've been doing, but Camden wanted to cut the solo time, and I'm sticking this in to show you what you missed". Costa had his hands tied on this also, with no time to do his thing. They're both good albums, but I prefer the first one.
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The only name I recognize on the list is Frank D'Rone, a fine singer and guitarist from Chicago that Larry posted some clips of here. If his rendition of "Joey, Joey, Joey" is on either of the LPs, it's worth getting, IMHO.
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Just started, "Rhythm Is My Beat" by Alfred Green- Freddie Green bio by his son Alfred. I thought it was going to be a fawning tale of the relationship of father and son, but AG has done all his homework, with tons of footnotes and excerpts of interviews he did with various family members, musicians and jazz writers. I'm up to the point where John Hammond 'discovers' FG at the local club where JH likes to get his rocks off watching nude 'mermaids' swimming around in a huge fish tank. JH is not spared critical review, as he takes apart the Basie Band to fit his perception of what the band should sound like, much to the consternation of both fired and retained band members. Lester Young and Billie Holiday's opinion of him is quoted in the book as a "Heartless meddler". Hammond took the nine piece Basie band from KC, and started adding instrumentation of five or six men, which caused the band to "slow down and made it sluggish", according to Buck Clayton, who claimed they "never had a bad night in KC". When Hammond first unveiled his 'discovery' in NYC at Roseland, the Basie Band was a huge flop.
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The Girl From Ipanema is a far weirder song than you thought
sgcim replied to JSngry's topic in Miscellaneous Music
That's a good way to think of it for the usual version in F, but if you've got a 'chick singer' who is intent on singing "The Boy From Ipanema" in her key, you've still got to find those third and fourth chords of the bridge in the new key. I used to do it by remembering that the third chord was going to be a minor seventh using the first chord's root, and the chord following that, the bVI7 of that third chord (which is the same thing as your method of going down a major 3rd) which then became the V7 of the next minor 7th chord, as you said. The weird thing is that you're on the ii chord when you've reached the fifth chord of the bridge, but it's going down a major third (or up a minor 6th), not to anything in the key like the V chord. If you've made it that far, then it's just a iii VI ii V turnaround and your journey is over. Where it really gets funny is when there's a male and female singer on the gig, and they start alternating A and B sections! The female decides she's going to come in on the bridge- IN HER KEY!! Then it's time for you to solo, in her key! Then the male singer wants to come in on the bridge back in the original key! There were never any rehearsals for these gigs, so it was every man/woman for themselves. I just remember laughing my head off and getting totally lost the first time that happened, but somehow we made it through without a train wreck..After that, I knew what to expect
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