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There's another 2 LPs worth or more listed in the discographies, but apparently it's gone missing and may well never come to light. Crying shame that. I love Alfred and Francis, but the choices they made then are not necessarily the ones that I'd make now. How long was Minton's a going venue?

I think there was more Lock & Griff from Minton's, about 4 LPs worth total IIRC, but it was packaged and repackaged in confusing ways and I can't quite get all the details straight without looking them up. but fine performances by a great band and very much deserving of further recognition IMHO.

No, NOT Lonnie LISTON Smith, the other Lonnie Smith. Grant Green recorded Alive! at the Cliché Lounge (literally, as well as figuratively). Don't know if anyone else made a live album there. If not, then I guess recording there would not be a cliché. Just to be clear, I like clichés. It's up to the user to do something imaginative with them.

Just skimmed it, but it's nice to see the love and a reasonable level of understanding.

I agree that the format fits ST well. My fondness for R&T may well be a combo of having heard it first and because Grant Green is on it. At Least 2, maybe 3 solid albums could've been made from the initially unissued sessions, but I have to wonder what their reception would've been. but then what they did issue seems weird to me too, both mostly not a good fit for the times and more than a little all over the place with the 2 heavily orchestrated dates (Look of Love & Always Something There) follow by an organ date with Idris (Common touch) and then a very straight ahead date (Another Story), with a non-album single too. Hard to say what they were thinking re a marketing strategy, just throwing it at the wall or several different strategies competing? The thing I wish they had done would be an all spirituals albums, maybe with varying accompaniment.. (4) Bayou (2005 Digital Remaster) - YouTube this link has most of what we're talking about here, if not all.

Having spent a lot of time looking at what BN issued and when, yes things got more than a little chaotic after the sale and Alfred's retirement. Things had always gone unreleased or delayed, but now it was different things for different reasons. And going back years to release things that had been overlooked really started in earnest under the new ownership. If they hadn't sold when they did there is a chance that more things could've been lost or remain unissued. And we'll probably never know how much of what Alfred and Francis did was more or less deliberate and how much was being overwhelmed with work.

of all the Duke Pearson arranged sessions ST did for BN, this is probably my personal favorite. Not coincidentally it's it's the littlest big(ger) band and the first one I owned. I have long thought that mid-sized bands are their own distinct thing and should be recognized as such in polls, awards, etc. If you only have 7 or 8 slots to fill, then every choice of instrumentation and personnel really matters. Great cover and I like the tunes too.

There is some nice music here, probably more to the taste of most here than his slightly later Look of Love and Always Something There albums with heavy orchestrations which were released at the time. If I were to go back and reorganize, either on CD or vinyl, I would want to include this session too: Stanley Turrentine Orchestra Burt Collins, Marvin Stamm, trumpet, flugelhorn; Garnett Brown, Benny Powell, trombone; Stanley Turrentine, tenor sax; Jerry Dodgion, Joe Farrell, Al Gibbons, reeds; McCoy Tyner, piano; Everett Barksdale, guitar; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Grady Tate, drums. Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, January 25, 1968 2033 Spooky Blue Note 45-1936, B1-31883, (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9 2034 Elusive Butterfly Blue Note (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9 2035 Love Is Blue Blue Note 45-1936 2036 When I Look Into Your Eyes unissued * Blue Note (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9 Stanley Turrentine Plays The Pop Hits - Easy! * Blue Note B1-31883, CDP 7243 8 31883 2 1 Various Artists - The Lost Grooves * Blue Note 45-1936 Stanley Turrentine - Spooky / Love Is Blue Not sure if any of it adds up to an album(s) with any kind of unity of mood. One other thing which could be done would be to pull the 3 Jobim and 1 Bonfa from these sessions and Wave from his last BN session and make an all bossa nova LP. But then what do you do with the rest? Since most of this is out, it's frustrating not all of it is. I'd also like to see the post BN sessions which appeared on Trip and other labels pulled together all in one place. I own all the issued Stan on BN save for a stray track or two (and had the Spooky/Love is Blue 45 in my hands once), but very little after that.

Two price point decisions I remember: waiting for rainbow series Blue Notes to fall from $4 to $3, that worked out and I got what I wanted cheaply, and passing on an original of Sam Rivers Contours 'cause it was $15 and I thought it should've been $12, that was a bad one since I didn't get a copy til the Tone Poet at $35 (other than my home taped copy of the the library's copy). I seem to remember bad buying choices better than good ones.

Take a record I already had and liked, say Kind of Blue or Caddy For Daddy, first buy other leader dates by Miles or Hank, then buy leader dates by the side men, so Something Else, Blue Trane and Sidewinder, then extrapolate from there, ad infinitum. And before you know it I've got nearly everything on Blue Note and a bunch of Eric Dolphy on Prestige and so on. Price and 'will I ever see this again' were sometimes factors, but not consistently. and I never stopped buying other things. I'm obsessive, but not very methodical.

Los Lobos, Native Sons, all covers but for one, tribute to LA

There are many things to love about Clifford's playing, but to me the biggest thing is how much joy he brought to it, IMHO the cuts from that drum shop in Philly that are on this have more joy in playing that just about anything Since the Hot 5 & 7.

I hate the notion of eras, and if you have to then there's at least 6 or 7.

Hilarious that he's playing his usual alto in that pic when the whole point of this album is that he's playing tenor on it instead. Must be a reissue, my copy has a pic of him with a goosenecked tenor in his mouth.

That'll fix 'em! Who's going to go do that for Evan Parker now?

Yeah, there's a whole bunch of peoples everywhere that applies to. To heck with 'em.

To get back to the subject at hand, it's hard to say whether anyone will find whatever 'problems'' there may be with this Jackie McLean date to be that kind of fascinating or not.

I heard just enough of the Sanders to get that they did a brilliant job of capturing his tone/sound/timbre, but not enough to say much else about it.

This does not have the Blue John material under Patton's leadership, it has Braith's three leader dates for BN. I have the SHM of Blue John, and I have to say that I was a little disappointed - I LOVED the grease fest that the LP is and the 5 bonus tracks are much less greasy. That said if it was reissued again, say as a dbl LP with even more bonus tracks, I'd probably buy it again.

My problem with those is not that the guys can't play, obviously they can and I like Cosey with Miles, but that they don't gel with Muddy or Wolf - it's totally oil and water IMHO, YMMV. Might help if I didn't think of them as Muddy or Wolf albums but as albums by the young guys with Muddy and Wolf guesting.

Thanks, I've only heard bits of the Sanders and none of Even Parker's. Also just discovered the earlier thread on Parker's views and statements.

Two saxophone masters delivered resonance in pandemic times — but one of them sounded a bad note on vaccines (msn.com) weird comments by Parker, but has anyone heard the album?

I'll take Jeremy Steig, Legwork. I'll take another look and send PM.

Sonnyboy #2, despite all the weirdness about him appropriating the other's name, I find Rice Miller to be a more compelling performer and songwriter.

Yeah, you would have to think that even on a multi-player bill, they did more than one relatively short number. But does it still exist? And everyone is pretty much at a peak. And since some not originally issued material surfaced later...