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absolutely.

How ironic.

Everybody else -- get out there and see this group!!! It won't cost much, and they need people to play to. You don't have to take all your family like John (way to go John!!), but if you have even half a ear for free-jazz, these guys are really top drawer.

That works. Thanks!!

There's a bunch of Blakey sessions I don't have on disc, and having the Gilmore solos included would have made getting this one a big priority for me. I'm not saying it's a bad date without 'em, but Gilmore is what makes it unique. And without his solos, it becomes just another Blakey session I don't happen to own yet (among many).

Oh shit, I never did sent that!! Sorry about that, Joe. Crap. I forgot all about it. Can somebody convert it into an mp3 and e-mail it to Jim?? Probably the quickest way to get it to you guys. I'd do it myself, but I'm afraid I've never figured out how to create mp3's (probably don't have the software for it, or at least not that I'm aware of).

This quote from Jim comes from another thread on John Patton, and I thought I'd bet better of responding to it here in this thread... That'd be off the hook!! Or how about a combined John Patton / Larry Young tribute album (from Organissimo)???? That would probably get some serious attention from folks hip to probably the two most progressive organists ever. I mean, sure -- lots most people know who Jimmy Smith was. But are they gonna run out and buy some disc that's a tribute to Jimmy Smith??? Speaking for myself, I probably wouldn't. Probably wouldn't give it a second look, even. BUT, I sure as hell would find out what's the deal with an organ trio that was recording Patton and Young. I'll be all over that, the second I heard about it. I'm serious. Give it some thought...

You might write well, but you can't read for shit!!

I would say probably not only "100% correct" gets the GOD rating. I was unsure about a few too, so I imagine that the GOD rating is something like 85% or higher (would be my guess).

Link: How grammatically sound are you? NOTE: Don't cut-n-paste the HTML results into your post to this thread. It won't work. You have to right-click on the .gif, just like any other pic you'd want to post to a thread. Also, don't forget to cut-n-past the text of the results too (they aren't included in the pic). Me?? I was... And FYI, I expect couw to beat most of us here in the U.S.

FYI, I done found this here article here: HERE. Forces of 'barbaric illiteracy' too strong New book serves as witty eulogy for punctuation Monday, April 19, 2004 Posted: 2:31 PM EDT (1831 GMT) BRIGHTON, England (AP) -- Lynne Truss fears the English language could be in its death throes. Proper, written English, that is -- the kind with correctly placed apostrophes, elegantly positioned semicolons, commas in all the right places and in none of the wrong ones. It's being shoved aside, she thinks, by an electronic onslaught of uncapitalized, unpunctuated, ill-thought-out Internet verbiage. Truss, a longtime writer and editor, is sure that trying to halt the decline would be hopeless, but she wants her new book, "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" to at least serve as a warm and funny eulogy to a little-heralded but crucial piece of the language: punctuation. Despite tackling a subject that's so dry that it's put generations of schoolchildren to sleep, the book has won critics' praise for its humor and readability and it's been a surprise hit in Britain, selling more than half a million copies. Truss also received the book of the year prize at the recent British Book Awards ceremonies -- an honor bestowed by a panel of 400 publishers, wholesalers and booksellers, and the public. "Eats, Shoots & Leaves," whose title comes from a corny punctuation joke about a panda in a bar, is a lighthearted, affectionate tribute to the system of jots, dots and dashes that make written language intelligible. "Sticklers unite," Truss urges in the book's introduction. "You have nothing to lose but your sense of proportion, and arguably you didn't have a lot of that to begin with." Relaxing in a sleek hotel lobby in her hometown of Brighton, on England's south coast, Truss, 48, seems to relish the part of linguistic nit-picker. She has bobbed blond hair and a warm smile, and displays a sharp, self-deprecating wit. She insists she's more surprised than anyone by the book's success. Truss -- so modest she apologizes (needlessly) for being a poor interview subject -- says she was well into writing last year before she felt sure the topic was substantial enough for a book. Evidence for punctuation's demise She eventually concluded proper usage of punctuation was coming to a cataclysmic end, making this exactly the right time to honor it. "It's just a wonderful moment to appreciate it before it goes, like going to see Venice before it sinks," she said. "I sort of feel, well, what a great system and how beautiful and elegant it is, and to have it just dropped and cast aside when there's nothing being offered in its place just seems quite barbaric." She blames the decline on the failure of schools to teach the basic rules, and on the explosion of communication technologies that have allowed punctuation ignoramuses everywhere to deluge others with their poorly organized thoughts. "People who don't know their apostrophe from their elbow are positively invited to disseminate their writings to anyone on the planet stupid enough to double-click and scroll," she writes. In the always hurrying modern world, Truss says, few slow down enough to take care over details that used to be the sign of a thoughtful writer. She sees evidence for punctuation's demise everywhere. Her book is filled with examples -- some funny, some just plain atrocious -- of punctuation abused, ignored and misplaced. "I saw a sign for 'Book's' with an apostrophe in it and something deep inside me snapped," she writes. "Despair was the initial impetus for this book." She's willing to forgive the greengrocers who advertise "apple's" and "orange,s" but saves particular venom for those publishing on a grander scale and those who should know better. Apostrophe abuse Truss lambasts Britain's National Union of Teachers for a letter in which it refers to "childrens' education," the British Broadcasting Corp. for promising "nouns and apostrophe's" in a grammar lesson on its Web site and the government for a passport application form that asked for the full name of "the person who's details are given in Section 02." All three apostrophes are misused. She's also furious about the apostrophe Warner Bros. omitted from the title of the Sandra Bullock-Hugh Grant comedy "Two Weeks Notice," (make that "Two Weeks' Notice," insists Truss), saying anyone who spends big money on a promotional campaign can afford a proofreader. "How much more abuse must the apostrophe endure?" she pleads in the book. Some examples amuse rather than exasperate. Truss takes a road sign that warns "Children Drive Slowly" as a declarative sentence describing young drivers' lack of speed, and notes that the sign "No Dogs Please" is flat-out wrong. "Many dogs do please, as a matter of fact; they rather make a point of it," she writes. Truss' book has clearly hit a nerve among readers fretful over what she sees as a wider decline in literacy. The book, released in the United States April 13, has been at the top of British best-seller lists since December and has sold a massive 580,000 copies here. Language-loving critics have raved about it. The Daily Telegraph newspaper called it "witty, clear-headed and altogether enchanting. ... It makes you love punctuation; you want to conserve what is still left and perhaps even call for more of it." Impressive stuff for a book whose initial success made its author more nervous than excited. Great reviews Truss, whose idea for the volume came from a BBC radio series she did on punctuation, "Cutting a Dash," says she originally thought it would be the sort of book people bought nitpicking relatives for Christmas. And even after they did so in enormous numbers, she fretted that all the copies were meant for a few famous sticklers who would return the extras to stores on December 26. They didn't. "I think that was when I relaxed, sort of about mid-January, when we realized that people were still buying it," she said. The book's blockbuster success also surprised editors at Profile Books, the small company that published it. Kate Griffin, of Profile, said she groaned when managing director Andrew Franklin first told her they would be releasing a book on punctuation. "When he said it would be fun, I didn't understand. But when I read her first chapter, I thought it was marvelous," Griffin recalled. Great reviews just before the book's November release drove advance sales and Profile immediately began boosting its initial print run of 15,000 copies, she said. Truss spent most of her career as an editor and journalist, writing three comic novels on the side that sold poorly. She expected "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" to be a modest seller, too, and says she's been stunned by the way it's caught on. Still, she says, there's little chance it will make a difference. "The forces toward barbaric illiteracy, I dare say, are much too strong ... for a few people," she sighs. "I don't think we're going to stop the rot."

John B. - I hope you don't mind me quoting (in public) what you sent me in a PM, but since you said... I also saw Hill's quartet last year (with Greg Tardy on tenor, and Nasheet Waits on drums, forget the bass player). This group last night was quite a bit more 'out/free' than Hill's group. And a whole hell of a lot LOUDER. You know your family better than anyone else -- but I can't imagine if they didn't like Hill much, that they could find anything of interest in this piano-less trio from last night. I loved them, cuz they really made it work. I normally don't care much for music that is that free, though I do appreciate it on some level. But perhaps it was the venue (a bar that normally programs thrash rock bands (I think), and perhaps it was the late hour (they didn't start playing until probably 11:30pm - and played until just after 1am) -- but I really was able to connect with all that chaos last night. Leave your aunt and uncle at home, would be my advice. Your wife is your call, but at least bring earplugs for her (and for yourself). I forgot to bring them, and my ears are still ringing (very slightly) this morning -- about 9 hours later. But man - they were a hell of a group.

Thank god you're OK, Brandon. That's some scary shit - getting hit by a bus when you're on your bike.

Wow. Just got back from the show. Without amplification, they would have been the single loudest jazz group I've probably ever seen. And they were WITH amplification -- so they were REALLY god-damn loud. BUT, they were also really amazing. John B, please bring earplugs to the show -- for yourself, your wife, and your other relatives. They will NEED them. Man, what a great group. I'm not nearly as into 'free' music as I was 10 years ago, but this group really has their shit together, in spades. The drummer, in particular, was really outstanding -- but hell, all three were. They have a web-site, it turns out (http://www.soundonsurvival.com), and they're just starting a 25-date tour. Here's the dates... April 16 - Oakland, CA - 21 Grand April 17 - Salt Lake City - House of Coffee April 19 - Kansas City, MO - The Pyro Room, 1809 Grand Blvd April 20 - St. Louis, MO - Radio Cherokee April 21 - Springfield, IL - Cafe Andiamo! Charlie's Club, 204 S. 6th Street April 22, 23 - Chicago, IL - Velvet Lounge, 2128 1/2 S. Indiana Avenue April 24 - Detroit, MI - Detroit Art Space April 25 - Toronto, ON - The Music Gallery April 26 - Montreal, PQ - la sala rossa (Just the trio) April 27 - Montreal, PQ - casa obscura (with many Montreal guests, TBA) April 28 - Johnson, VT - Johnson State April 29 - Hyde Park, MA - Artists-At-Large Gallery, 37 Everett St. April 30 - Cambridge, MA - Zeitgeist gallery (special guest Eric Zinmann) (article) May 1 - Amherst, MA - Unitarian Meetinghouse, 121 North Pleasant St. (article on this series in the Valley Advocate) May 2 - Syracuse, NY - Westcott Community Center May 3 - Rochester, NY - Bop Shop May 4 - Buffalo, NY - Hallwalls May 5 - Pittsburgh, PA - Garfield Artworks May 6 - Philadelphia, PA - Slought Foundation May 9 - NYC - CBGB May 11 - NYC - Tonic May 12 - Brooklyn, NY - Overground series, the Pourhouse May 13 - Kingston, NY - Uptown Gathering Place May 14 - Middletown, CT - Buttonwood tree May 25 - San Francisco - The Hemlock Tavern If any of you have any interest at all in stuff like John Zorn, or Tim Berne, or 'out'-leaning John Gilmore and Marshall Allen --- get you ass out there and go hear this band (and take earplugs). They are well worth your time, and I'm sure it'll cost you like $5 or $10 (at most) to get in. (Hell, it was only $3 for me to hear them tonight.) I'd hate for them to be playing to empty houses too -- and lord knows Free Jazz doesn't sell for shit in this world. Take a chance, why not?? PS: They've got a couple full-length audio-clips of a couple of their tunes, on their website: http://www.soundonsurvival.com I wish they were playing down in TX, cuz Sangry -- I'm figuring you'd probably love these guys.

audio-clips at bn.com

Up for the day-shift. Thanks for the info, P.L.M -- much appreciated. Sounds like a show I'm gonna need to take my earplugs too. I've got a set of "musicians earplugs" that cut the sound-levels equally across all frequencies, so it really is just like turning the volume down a touch. Should be interesting, at the very least -- and probably more.

I've only seen just a handful of 24, maybe one or two episodes per season. But I saw last night's, and last week's -- and was pretty much on the edge of my seat. This is the kind of show I typically forget to watch, but I might just tune in next week. I don't watch much network TV - but 24 strikes me as being better than average -- at least from what little I've seen.

Joe, Eric, Paul, Chris?? -- any of you guys going to this?? (I think that's all my KC homies on this board, that I can think of.)

Little blurb from the jazz column of the Kansas City Star on Friday... I'm probably going anyway, so I guess the question is -- anybody here ever heard of these guys?? What's the 411??

Judging from the clips on his website, he sounds like maybe a 'good' player - sure, I'll grant him that. But... "some of the most technically nimble, harmonically adventurous, rhythmically combustive solo work to have been played by an under-25 jazz trumpeter in the past 40 years" ...sounds pretty damn hyperbolic to me. Lee Morgan turned 25 in 1963 (about 40 years ago), so probably this critic is trying to say that this kid is the best new young trumpet player to come on the scene since Morgan (would be my guess). But, hell, Woody Shaw turned 25 only 34 years ago (in '69). So, what, this kid's better than Woody was all through the 60's?? Yeah, right.

FYI, here's the article...

it's in the LPR series: what once was is what you get. So no restoration of solos or other missing pieces of the puzzle. Drat. Excuse my French, by why the fuck release this on CD, if you're not going to restore the edited solos??? I mean, that's the only way a release like this has any serious merit (or at least as much merit it's capable of). I sure the thing would sell better if people had the chance to hear more solos from Gilmore. But released with all those edits, I'm sure I'm just as likely to take a pass at it, as I would buy it. Release it in it's full form, and I'm seriously WAY MORE interested in hearing this thing. WTF are they thinking????

Organissimo!!

Personally, I'm MUCH more of a fan of selectively using ALL CAPS when I REALLY want to make a BIG point about something. Anything else just seems kinda SILLY if you ask me. (And - when I REALLY wanna make my point known, I use ALL CAPS PLUS BOLD -- which seems to work pretty well, all in all.)