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More relief, then! I've been playing some Clarke/Boland stuff lately and it would have been a bit of a blow if that had been Griff and I unable to tell so!

#3 Keith Jarrett? I confess I haven't played all those live shows I got yet... but hey, this is definitely from Ibrahim's camp... almost like stealin', at least for the first part, if it's not the man himself! #4: glad I'm not alone in finding the guitar incoherent, Mr. Jack!

I say they should employ guys like us and pay us management salaries because of our vast knowledge

Yes, even more so since someone actually put a readable number in there, and didn't check - I assume if they'd checked it the number would be unreadable...

Ooops! My mistake. I meant 1, 4, 6 and 8. OOOFF! Relief!

There's another rip-off on the Comet (Italian?) label - I saw that one in stores here, for roughly the same crazy swiss prize of the Columbia box. It's astonishing again and again how clueless these vendors are!

I finally got my set, but the booklet misses p. 1/2 (and thus also 15/16) - I hope it's not too late for them to replace it!

Time to play that JiP again, yes. Sad news.

Mike, the Sony - that's the most annoying thing about it, in my opinion - does not have the tracks chronologically! The alternates are all together on half of disc 7 or 8 and then up to the end. I think it also has a couple of live tunes tagged on it, but I don't have it here to check.

You're correct, sorry. I must have mixed it up with some other box sets... I paid 69€ from French Amazon in July 2004. Too many box sets, I assume, in too short time

Ha, I guess we wish so, but sooner or later we'll learn...

I got it for less on French Amazon, can't remember how much it was, but I think in the 35-50 euro range... must have been some kind of sale, but I can't remember. I agree with the statements above, sound is good, the book has an awkward format... but the music is glorious! I have no idea about what's in the Definitive box, but I think one cut (an alternate) was erroneously duplicated on the Columbia box, so it misses one alternate and has another take of that tune twice... I wouldn't know if that mistake has been corrected, it was reported to me by mmilovan.

Great prize for the Buck Clayton! I paid around 100$ for the LP version, alas I play LPs all too rarely, but it's beautiful! Bought the Jelly Roll Box for 20€ - full prize was around 110 or more, but I've been shopping a lot, so the 10% discount I could cashed in was really helpful

Bootlegs, for instance the Miles in Zurich concert that also came out on Jazz Unlimited before (KoB sextet, fantastic show).

Those are the two albums with Bobby Jones, right? I love his "Hill Country Suite" on Enja a lot (just trio, with Freddie Waits!).

That "Avantgarde" disc is alright, but I'm not sure if you'll enjoy it. It's pretty noisy run of the mill avant stuff...

Happy Birthday!

Miles/Trane I never had, but I have all of it in some form... the Fillmoe artwork is indeed great! I don't think - in my case, at least - Gambit and other companies make much of a difference, it's rather the sharing networks, where astonishing pre-fm or cristalline fm recordings turn up that happen to be better than the versions available at the times these trees were compiled.

The Mangelsdorff is also known as Now Jazz Ramwong, the version that goes as abstraction is on the Wewerka label and has a longer version of one tune that was edited on the original Columbia LP. Terrific album, couw had one cut on his BFT (way back, #7 or something). One of the first instances where european jazz of great originality was created, helluva band with a great bass player (acoustic), two sax players (as and ts/ss) and a very good drummer. They do folksy/asian stuff, weird scales, ballad, etc. mostly stuff influenced by things they heard on a tour through south-east asia in 1964, including "Three Moods", based on a Ravi Shankar theme... not able to put this more coherently now, but don't miss it, if it's indeed the Wewerka edition of what's more commonly known as "Now Jazz Ramwong" - here's the tracklist, in case it helps confirming: 1 Now Jazz Ramwong (Mangelsdorff) 2 Sakura Waltz (Mangelsdorff) 3 Blue Fanfare (Mangelsdorff) 4 Three Jazz Moods (R. Shankar-Mangelsdorff) 5 Burunkaka (Mangelsdorff) 6 Raknash (Lenz-Hübner) 7 Theme from Vietnam (Mangelsdorff) 8 Es Sungen Drei Engel (trad. arr. Mangelsdorff) Oh, the last theme obviously is a traditional, very old, german folk song... beautiful stuff!

How about the Spring 83? Too much 80s stuff, too I suppose? I joined too late to get any of them when they were originally spread, but I enjoyed the ones I got in trades a lot (L5, 1967, 1983, Belgium, I think that's all... ah, no, of course the Fillmore, too). But with today's trading/file-sharing opportunities, there are upgrades of a lot of shows from these trees floating around, so by now these trees are not as great any longer as they must have been before the internet gained speed.

And for the record: I never liked Nicholson... not even in "Shining"... fire away!

sal, nothing wrong in disagreeing with me, of course! I may be a bit harsh here, but I love "Mean Streets" that much... clem, I was talkin' of those documentaries Scorsese did for british (?) television, two 4-hour films, one about Italian cinema (only going as far as the first important Antonioni and Fellini films, but featuring lots of neorealismo stuff) and an even better one about American cinema (up to I think Kubrick and Cassavetes). His analysis may not be the sharpest, but it's really about creating enthusiasm and sharing love for these films and digging up some lesser known directors or giving props to too easily disregarded people like Douglas Sirk... definitely worth seeing, and Scorsese himself comes across as a very nice man, not full of himself at all, just enjoying all the great stuff he shows you (you can see him in between parts of films, and you can hear lots of his voice, of course... he did all the talking himself).

Drop me a PM (with your email address, or email, if you have mine) if you want my primitive home-made covers, adding composer credits and bits of Losin's info where available.

When did Scorsese turn crappy? I love the early ones (that Bickel chap and even more so the first mafia film), also "Raging Bull" and "Goodfellas" are good, "Casino" was only so-so, I thought... oh, and against all my expectations I enjoyed "Age of Innocence" quite a lot... and his two cinema documentaries are great, of course, but... of late, it seems he hasn't done anything really that distinctive. And I wonder why he sticks to that babyface Di Caprio, whom I never enjoyed the least bit.