My dad likes to tell me the story about seeing Groove in Lansing at the old Tropicana in the 70s. He was there for a week (or maybe two week) stint and my dad went to see him every night. He said his B3 was so beat-up it looked like beavers had gnawed on it, but it and Groove sounded great!
Conclusion: Joe's got no business playing music.
Just kidding: It's a hard test. Sometimes I couldn't tell if subtle rhythmic things were my imagination or actual differences.
Pistons aren't looking much better. I hope they can fix their chemistry issues. They have a good bench this year, imo. In fact, the bench is playing better than the starters overall.