Joe G

In the checkout at the grocery store today I noticed he was on the cover of Reader's Digest.

He fought the good fight. Rest in Peace

I was around when 'Saxophone Colossus' was released and - along with a lot of people - was taken over by the sheer brillance. Same thing with John Coltrane's first albums. And then when Albert Ayler's 'Spiritual Unity' exploded. Is there any album by one of the current saxophonists that hit you in the face the same way those did in their time? I have not but would love to hear one. Not for tenor players. I've heard some other stuff that hit me that way.

*Thread hijack warning* I'm just not clear on what an equivalent album to Saxophone Colossus would be, exactly. Would we recognize it as such?

That was a different time.

Check out the Kurt Rosenwinkel album called The Next Step. Great compositions; excellent working group. Another conspicous absence in this thread (and a favorite of mine): Ron Blake.

Maria Schneider's Concert in the Garden and Allegresse have been getting a lot of play here lately, since being hipped to her in that thread Bev S. started a while back.

Add to those to your blinking signature....

Nevertheless, she's not my type...

Nah. She looks like an elf!

Hm. New research that brings us old news. What will they think of next?

Start up a Groove thread guys!

Did that make any cents?

True. It's my understanding that that particular unit of measurement came out of the 12 tone equal tempered scale though, so I guess it's more accurate to say cents correspond more readily to 12 tone E.T.

God! You scared me for a minute. I thought there was going to be a cease-and-desist order being issued soon. By us, that is.

I've never had grits or black-eyed peas. Total Yankee.

Y'all are into grits down in Indy?

The notes in the Bjork tune are D, D flat, and C. Half steps, in other words. Cool sounding tune, BTW. Microtones in western pop music are extremely rare. Or maybe that should read intentional microtonal melodies are extremely rare. Most of the time, it's simply people who can't really sing or play their instruments in tune, or like you say, there's just some push/pull going on that stretches the tuning, sometimes in a pleasing way. Also there are different tuning systems, as you probably are aware, so that the equal tempered major 3rd is 14 cents* sharp of the major 3rd in just intonation. (Check out Miles' solo on Freddie Freeloader: his minor seventh on the four chord is quite a bit flat from the piano's minor seventh. But it's still "in tune", because he's playing the seventh partial of the overtone series, whereas the piano is playing the equal tempered minor seventh. Sorry if that went over anyone's head. ) (this is where 7/4 says, there he goes again... nevertheless... ) From the book Harmonic Experience: ... for example, the quarter tone that sits right in-between E and E flat. Some jazz musicians have delved into quartertonal and microtonal music, like Brad Shepik (in his Balkan jazz ensembles), and I heard one Tribal Tech record where Scott Kinsey played a solo using microtones programmed into his keyboard. W.A. Mathieu recommends Easley Blackwood's CD Microtonal Compositions as an example of the potential of equal temperments from thirteen to twenty-four tones per octave. I'm not sure if Harmolodics belongs in this discussion. Actually, I'm not even sure what Harmolodics is! (I've heard the term, but who among us can explain it???) *cent: a unit of measurement that equals 1/100th of a semitone, and 1/1200th of an octave, in equal temperment only.

Cheers!

Paul, do you ever use ground turkey instead of beef? I prefer that both on taste, and for the fact that it's less greasy. Greazy: good Greasy: bad

Back up for more comfort food ideas. I went to a nearby farmers market, where they had all the fall produce in, including lots of pumpkins. I was thinking, "Pumpkin Pie, mmmmm......" Got some good Michigan apples, too. Found this recipe today in a magazine for minestrone soup. Looks pretty good: Ingredients: 2 quarts water 4 cloves garlic 2 carrots 3 large potatoes 4 cups chopped kale 2 cups canned beans (eg., borlotti, white, kidney, garbanzo) 1 large onion 2 stalks celery 2 cups pasta olive oil 1/2 cup of your favorite grated cheese Dice garlic, carrots, potatoes; chop onion and celery. Drizzle olive oil in pot; add vegetables and a pinch of salt and pepper. Saute 10 minutes. Add water and beans. Bring to boil. Reduce heat, simmer for 1 hour. Five minutes before serving, return to boil, add pasta. Sprinkle grated cheese onto bowl of soup and eat with crunchy bread.

Arno is a treat to hang out with as well. He's got plenty of stories, having been on the scene since the 40's. He was telling me that his roomate in NYC was friends with one Charlie Parker, and that Bird used to come up to the aparment they shared to play chess! Arno's recent cds come highly recommended. There's at least one recent thread if you care to search for it.

Since You've Been Gone (Bootsy)

Couple of MIA members in that thread (not talking about Mnytime!).

Didn't he mean to write "that is not what Bb by itself means"?