Joe G

Hmmm... I had forgotten the broader definition.

I have no argument with this. Nor do I consider myself a jazz musician, strictly speaking. I play the guitar; sometimes I improvise, sometimes it's worked out, sometimes it's standards (or covers), other times it's originals. It's an evolving path, and it ain't over 'till it's over. 1. Haven't you noticed all the "Teo edits" being restored (Miles, Monk, Mingus) - and which Miles albums are you including in "classics". ← No, I haven't been following the Columbia reissue program too closely. I was thinking of the small group recordings done in the late 50's/early 60's.

Looks like I've opened a can of worms! From where I stand, I can see both sides of the coin (neat trick, ay?). I'll just say, for now, that I'm willing to let my thinking on this issue evolve over time. Two thoughts, though: 1. Teo did a lot of editing on those classic Miles albums, no? 2. All art is an illusion in one way or another. Okay, something else that just occurred to me. Jim compared music editing to text editing, and earlier today, I was thinking of editing in film. Those are very different mediums, though, with different aims, and I'm not sure that they can be compared in that way. Shall I quit now or muddy the waters further?

This is the other aspect of recording that I've been thinking about. The author of that article mentioned "the authenticity debate". Sometimes we refer to recordings as "documents", as in documenting the work, but that doesn't seem right if you're fixing things. If two takes are combined into one, what is that a document of? Not "the moment" obviously. A live recording with no edits would be closer to being a document, I would think. So are edits dishonest in a way?

I hear ya! I don't know why we're so worried about that either. Maybe we're afraid of our alternate takes being released after we're dead, and then everyone will see how uncreative we really are. Yes, I've read the Inner Game of Music, and Tennis, plus a host of similar books. Putting the stuff into practice is the trick!

I thought this was interesting. Listening to your own recordings too much can lead to an unhealthy narciccism. One thing I find is that Jim and I both become much more self-conscious after listening to recordings that we've made, in particular, performances that we were very happy with. It can take a long time to get that out of my head and play something fresh and in the moment at the gig. I can get caught between wanting to play something that's as good as the recording, but trying to not play the solo from the recording. That's a good recipe for falling on one's face.

Instead of grading this particular essay, how about posting some of our own thoughts on the subject?

I'm glad you posted this. Having just finished recording, editing, and beginning to mix our second cd, I've been pondering these things a lot lately. It's hard to come to any firm conclusions, I'm finding.

Everybody wants to get into ze act.

Life is but a dream...

There's a full page write-up on Mantooth in the new DB.

Right on, Paul! I'd like to hear that.

Stop the madness!

Do women really want to hear mush like that? Sounds pretty damn clingy to me. I apologize if anyone's got an ear worm now. I know I do.

If you're referring to Sco's album "Grace Under Pressure", that was Charlie Haden on bass.

I like him with John Scofield. His soloing in that context is something I've always admired.

Happy Birthday means "I'm glad you were born." Enjoy the day, my friend!

Mike - just wondering if you've delved further into the dvds...

I think you made a fine choice with the chrome on black.

Re: the pickups: I'm with you fellars!

No doubt. You don't want people chuckling to themselves at the pivitol scene in the movie that's supposed to lock Vader in to the dark side. It was cheesy as hell. Other than that, I thought it was pretty good, considering what Lucas had to work with (and work against). I like all the stuff at the end that sets up what is now called A New Hope. They even found an actor that looks like Peter Cushing to appear on the bridge of a destroyer. I felt like I was back in the 70's for a minute. :rsmile:

Got milk?

I never knew!

I grew up listening to those guys, too. It would seem like Dave must have liked that music, otherwise how would he even end up in that company?