Well, damn it, I'll admit it's a guilty pleasure, but I kind of like the Offspring. I don't understand anyone describing them as "whiny". If anything, I'd describe them as musical comedy. I'm not saying I put them on the level of Mingus or something (nor would I say that about Floyd!), but "whiny"? And comparing them to the Spice Girls? Hmmm. Just a personal weakness I suppose...