Brad

I think that was the whole purpose and it's a good exercise in democracy (please no smirking) to gauge the feeling of the community.

What we do without you, Weiz --, I mean Red Me--, I mean Dr. Freud Mark, In view of some of the recent changes with that forum, it seemed like time for taking the pulse of this community once again. I don't remember if one had ever been taken so I thought I'd do it. Obviously, the members feel otherwise. That's democracy in action. Are we clear now?

Jim, That makes two of us. My apologies for over reacting as well. You have enough to worry about without the ravings of another madman

I think the post is self explanatory, but to help you here, my concern is should a thread be deleted because the moderators deem it silly. As long as it doesn't run afoul of the rules that Jim has posted, then it shouldn't be closed. That, in a nutshell, is it.

Is it time for a middle school english teacher to step forward (realizing that I might be called STUPID by the perspicacious one)?

Why do I feel there's no "love" lost between Deep and Patricia ?

That's right Brad. The burden is heavy on the shoulders of he/she who wields the power. Solomon had it easy, when all he had to do was threaten to cut a baby in half. It's not an enviable job but one which he ought to be given very high marks for .

I believe he's saying that since the rule was incorrectly stated, anything that happened to him while it was in effect was invalid and any warning he received should be rescinded so that he's back at 0% again, starting now.

Hold on a goddamned minute! Whether or not there should be a political forum is an important issue. Obviously I bow to the will of the majority. But you've recognized that it's an issue. Why otherwise would you have first, segregated it from most of the discussion that goes on here, and secondly, tell members that you could use an ignore function. In addition, you think the premise of the thread silly so you're going to close it for that reason? Do we have censorship here, just because you deem it silly? Or are you going to give me the Tom Evered answer that "it's our board and we can do we want." It is but that belies the point. There's plenty of silly threads that go on this Board and I don't see them being closed. By starting this have I offended anybody? As far as I know I haven't maligned a particular group of people like was done recently. And I haven't called anybody names or insulted them, even though just the other day, somebody asked if I was a narrow mined bigot because I didn't like somebody they didn't like. It's not actually whether or not there should be a political forum that's got me steamed but the fact that you think you should close it because you think it's silly. I'm not usually quick to anger but this has

I thought I'd throw this up for discussion since several people have asked for the ignore function on the political forum. My vote: get rid of it, although I'm probably in the minority.

Barak couldn't have said it better. We are sorely in lack of visionaries today.

As one of the biggest critics on the political board (although I have visited it ocassionaly, but very very ocasssionally), I'm tempted to put my name on the list but I prefer to have the option to go there and self censor myself, unless you're going to get rid of the whole thing, which I wouldn't object to either.

Can't we all just get along

There are actually considered to be 5 volumes: The Amazing Bud Powell (Volumes 1 and 2), Bud! (Volume 3), Time Waits (Volume 4) and The Scene Changes (Volume 5). I've recently listened to all except Time Waits. The material I've read lately rates Time Waits as not his best. I like all that I've heard recently so it's hard for me to pick out one as better than the other. Like Lon, I've started to explore some of his post 1958 European work and from what I've heard so far, which isn't, too be hones, all that much, it's different. The ideas don't seem to come tumbling out as quickly and I don't hear the same speed. Like I said, I'm just starting to listen to the European material so I may be wrong. Others may wish to comment on this. BTW, it's Un Poco Loco.

It's really hard to say more about a record of this type than has been said by commenators over the years but I'll give it a shot. Obviously, an excellent album alternating between shining emotions and brooding dark thoughts. Most of what we think about this album is somewhat colored by what happened to Bud. Autumn in New York is classic but even in the intro, it seems dark but the curtain seems to lift a bit after that. It's hypnotic to listen to. Equally different is Polka Dots and Moonbeams, done at a measured tempo, brooding in itself, obviously very different than the way a Red Garland does it. Generally, this is a happy tune, but in Bud's hands, it comes out quite differently. Glass Enclosure is very disturbing; it seems to show his many moods. From dark to light to dark. It's pretty fascinating, to say the least. Of different mood and classics are Reets and I, I Want to Be Happy (amateur psychologists probably had a field day with this) and I've Got You Under My Skin. A very compelling album and to me far different than Volume 1.

Kenny Drew, for the reasons Dan mentioned. Kenny and Sonny, two of my favorite pianists.

Unless you happen to have the JRVGs of Elmo Hope's BN sessions, you don't wait to wait for this one, plus put together, the JRVGs don't have as much music as the original US version. The same can also be said for the Wynton Kelly cd, Piano Interpretations.

I'm not really interested in prolonging this too much more, except to say that what jazz has been an evolving concept for over a century. Obviously, what Jelly Roll played is different than what Bird played and different from Bird to electric Miles. Could in the evolving concept of jazz, Cassandra Wilson be placed in there? Sure, I agree with you there. Jazz has always had a big tent of inclusion to it. I don't really believe you can place her in the same pantheon of Billie or Ella, but we have our own opinions about that. I believe my original point was that it wasn't jazz or didn't sound like it to me. Obviously, you disagree and are a big fan of hers, which I think is great. I didn't care for the performance. I'm sure you would have liked it. You have your views and I have mine. So we'll leave it at that and move on.

Obviously Dave Brubeck and Jelly Roll are very different. But they fit in jazz. Their styles fit into that rubric. As far as not listening to her, oh, you can take that one to the bank. Also you mention that Dinah Washington and Sarah Vaughan are also great, which implies that you believe that Cassandra Wilson belongs in that company. Please let's not insult them by grouping Ms. Wilson with her.

I have the movie and I think it's excellent. What I find amazing in reading some of these comments is that's perceived to be as complete fiction or that Bud Powell's name is not mentioned here because this movie (even though what happened to Lester Young is in there) is really about Bud and based on Francis Paudras' Dance of the Infidels. Heck, even Dexter's "wife" is named Buttercup, just like Bud's common law wife. After I finished the book recently, I went back and watched the movie and howled when I saw that they had named her Buttercup. Another incident in the movie that was from the book is where in the movie the owner's wife of the Blue Note, where both a lot of the musical action in the movie and book took place, complains about Dex sitting down while playing. In the book, she complained about Chet Baker sitting down when sitting in one night. He promptly stopped and left the club for good. So, I know there's some fiction here but there's a lot of truth as well. If you think this movie is excellent, you need to get the Paudras book, one of the most moving books I've ever read.

Ed, glad to see you. We all need to probably take a break sometimes. I think that some of those people on the stock boards (just from having read some of the messages on the Yahoo message aboard about my company's stock) make some of our denizes look positively normal.

I frankly hate going shopping the day after T-day. So after I got a haircut on Friday morning, I went over to Best Buy to pick up the expanded edition of the Lord of the Rings for my son. No bargain but just one thing to get out of the way. The store was mobbed but what surprised me is that there was no waiting at the check out. This was around 10:30. I guess there were more lookers than actual buyers.

Looks like Dan got an early Christmas present . There were a couple of articles in today's NYT sports section about the move. One was about fan reaction. Apparently, Schilling went on a couple of fan web sites and some Yankee fans were trying to get him to come over to theirs. The second, in discussing Epstein's moves, quotes Schilling as saying that "I guess I hate the Yankees now", or something like that.

I was thinking the same thing. Ed use to post a lot here. I hope he's all right. Shrugs never posted a lot here although I'd like to see him here more often.

I think I'll ask for the Amy and the Chambers. I think I'll wait on the Pearson. I don't think I'm burning to have that one just yet. The Eldridge will have to wait until and if I get a bonus.