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I still haven't listened to it yet. That's the level of my buzz, that I knew I would want it, but wouldn't be in a big hurry to listen to it. But when I do, I know it will be a happy thing.

He lived a long time, against a decade or two of trying not to. RIP, and thanks for being a survivor. Hoping to live long enough to see an appreciation of this apex of avant-garde elevator music. The whole album is like this, if you ever find it, don't hesitate to pick it up.

It would, but only up to a point. Tell me - does this sound like ashram music or an early 80s love song by some obsucre cult favorite? At some point, people gonna be who they be, no matter the impetus behind the music. I have to say though, you'll want the recent issue even if you never listen to a note of the music. Best cover of the 21st Century to date, imo.

If you didn’t speak English, would it sound like religious music? Just saying, I don’t understand the question, especially given the robust cross-pollination between secular and spiritual musics that are mandated in the US constitutions.

That Shepp set is a perfect collection of imperfect music. I'd be all over that if I didn't already have it all. Hell yeah, no-brainer, totally. Maybe add MAgic Of JuJu, but then it's 6 not 5, and there you go, what does 5 mean? Not 6, for damn sure. But apart from that, this - That's listed as Beaver Harris, but that's got to be Roy Haynes, right? No matter, it goes on way too long for permanent purposes, but before it does...holy shit, that's some all-in playing by all concerned right there.

No more so than with, say, Aretha Franklin.

Coltrane as physicist, that's a very real thing. Just listen to Interstellar Space (which is almost totally built on playing that goes "goth directions at once" quite literally). If that's not physics put to sound then nothing is. And/but who's going to talk about this in a world where nightclub music/is now essentially concert hall music? From selling drinks to selling tickets. You can sell culture any place, but who wants to invest in physics, in math? Awareness of Trane's science has been known to us in the "general audience" since, at least, the C. O. Simpkins book. It keepd popping up here andd there in interviews, but nobody seems to want to really engage it, I guess because, things like god and quest and journey and all this make for great comic books, whereas hard math and physics don't. But still, the knowledge lingers on. If they've put some of these diagrams in the notes of this package, great. That shows that the documents still exist in part, and leave open the possibility that some day somebody will get to them, research them in depth, and bury them iit in caly vessels in the desert, Anyway, yeah, me too,

If this package is reasonably priced, I'll hit it. The albums didn't do too much for me back in the day, but oh well, let's try one more time and see what happens this time. The Ashram stuff that was recently put out into general circulation was a nice thing to do.

Sure I can. The way people listen today, I have no problem at all imagining that. I actually kind of envy that possibility, it's a luxury that only comes early in the journey (assuming that it even becomes a journey, and that's no guarantee, right?). Hell, the very first Trane I heard was Transition, and then, maybe, George Russel's New York, New York, and then Kind Of Blue, and then Cannonball/Coltrane (in the Everest version), and then Live Again At The Village Vanguard (Pharoah on Naima FUCKED ME UP!), or some totally a-historical (or even historically informed) sequence like that. And I think I heard Ayler, and probably Shepp, before I knowingly heard Coltrane - on "underground" FM and courtesy of what was in the cutout bins. My Wayne Shorter exposure was similarly "wrong". I heard him on Indestructable, In A Silent Way, the title cut of ESP (on Miles Davis' Greatest Hits, of all places) and the first Weather Report album almost at the same time. I just listened to shit as i sound it, and I found it quite randomly and only sometime purposely. Hell, I was devouring Shepp and Maynard Ferguson equally, and had nobody to tell me not to do it like that. I mean, I figured shit out as time went by, but you want to know why I can still smile at one of Maynard's good records from whenever, that's why - because I had fun with it before I knew that I shouldn't be having fun with it. OOOOPS!!! People listen to what they find when they find it, and hear it in context of what they've already heard, not what they should know about what they should hear first. Well, yeah, and why not? It's legitimately new product, not some umpteenth bajillionth repackaging of 50-60 year old product. If it's not "revelatory", oh well, I doubt there's any more of that left to be had from any source.

Cal Massey was who I first thought of also, just because. I still haven’t cracked the shrink wrap, got too much other stuff going on, but who else would Trane let run the band like seems to be happening here?

That’s what I need out of music, to know where to make a splice. Oh, and about the “boxy” drum sound...not bad for a non- studio, right? It was their storeroom basically, correct, not a proper studio at all?

Oh, is music being modernized by the government now? Can the sitcom be far behind?

Seconded (the title cut especially), and although "Ceora" is a classic (as well as a nice programming change of pace), my favorite cut from Cornbread is "Our Man Higgins". the way that thing shifts from whole-tone to standard changes really plays to where everybody was at at that time (including Jackie).

Constant flux is a bit of a "Romantic" notion, but sure, there were pivot points. But they were just that, points, dots. And in between those, the dots had to be connected in real time, and that's where the "more of that thing" comes in, just the everyday motion of everyday life for that band and those players. I love the dots, but I love the connective tissue just as much, especially when you start to feel the gravitational pull of the next point beginning to exert itself. You can get quantum about it (and quantum is what Trane was after, I'm convinced), but hell, if you just want to take it out for a Sunday drive, any of it, it works like that too. Greatness will handle the demands, light or heavy, always.

My buddy Pete Gallio told me a long time ago that the point of hearing live Coltrane was not to hear anything new, but just to hear that "thing" done again, not quite like it had been done before or would be done after. To just enjoy having one more moment of "that" to be in. That's pretty much where I am with this. No revelations expected, just one more moment of "that thing" to enjoy a few times.

so you have to destroy the package to liberate the music? there's a potentially useful metaphor there...

He did damn good work. Consistently.

So there really is a disc hidden inside the packaging? That’s nuts.

god bless Pi.

Seriously?