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thanks for the advice here's the reply I just got back from "Black Jazz" Hi Stephen how are you. The music is transfered from the orginal master tapes. I can make it possible to ship to you withought Jewel cases how does $11.00 a cd sound? Also the cd's on Snow Dog Records are not bootleggs. I licenced a 300 unit minimum to Snow Dog Thanks. James/Black Jazz Records Still sound sus? $11 for discs w/o cases (but with the rest of the packaging?)...not what I'd go for, but you did get a response and it does seem legit enough...but still, me, I'd go for the Snow Dogs from Dusty Groove or some other "known quantity". Seems like a sure thing going that route.

Who are these two guys? NATE “LLOYD” HYGELUND, bass AUSTIN “PARIS” WRIGHT, drums

It's JR that's died this time, not hagman.

He was 81 and did have the throat cancer, he did.

I'm surprised there's not been a label called Worthwhile Music...founded by Rodney Linten Worthwhile, of the Cutonian Worthwhiles, Northern America's Most Trusted Source Of Recorded Southern America's Breakdowns, Pool Parties, & Skeet Shoots. On the subject of Hendrix, I must say - without rancor - that although Jimi Hendrix changed my live forever before I was e'een a teenager, and made "free jazz" where I started from rather than what I tried to get to, I much prefer his finished studio output and various live recordings to almost all of the posthumously released and not quite complete stuff that have come out over the last 40 or so years. Gimme the three Experience albums, Band Of Gypsies, a select live show or five, and I'm set. Those are eternally renewable resources.

I'm surprised there's not been a label called Worthwhile Music...founded by Rodney Linten Worthwhile, of the Cutonian Worthwhiles, Northern America's Most Trusted Source Of Recorded Southern America's Breakdowns, Pool Parties, & Skeet Shoots. On the subject of Hendrix, I must say - without rancor - that although Jimi Hendrix changed my live forever before I was e'een a teenager, and made "free jazz" where I started from rather than what I tried to get to, I much prefer his finished studio output and various live recordings to almost all of the posthumously released and not quite complete stuff that have come out over the last 40 or so years. Gimme the three Experience albums, Band Of Gypsies, a select live show or five, and I'm set. Those are eternally renewable resources.

Pausa

Specifically what albums, and who are the instrumental arrangers? I'm guessing Pat Williams? In which case, hey, asked and answered. Worth noting, though, that Gene Peurling had one foot in genius, one foot in silly, and by the time SU took shape, one foot in the sound of state-of-the-art jingles (of which he is a fountainhead of sorts). so that's three feet, which makes a yard, and I'm glad I didn't have to mow it, not in this heat. But the albums with Robert Farnon, especially Eventide (1978), are about as "still" as any pop-first music of this lineage since Claude Thornhill's most trance-y states. Never mind the fondue, pass the opium, please!

Dirty Harry Harry Potter Porter Kilbert

Bubbles Whitman Charles Whitman Tower Of Power

Joe Six-Pack Your Average Joe Joe (who happiness is just a thing called)

They've been doing good work.

Joe Adcock Dick Stuart Jack Spear http://www.champs2.com/2012/scouting-report-jr-6-3-195-lb-spear-lhp1b/

That's money well-spent, to be sure. And The Sulieman disc is already sold out! The presence of a vocalist and his playing alto, though, that's what's really intriguing. But I need just a little better price...seek and ye shall find, maybe.

ECM boxed with Jack DeJohnette? Damn, I missed that. I bet it was good. I've heard that he's crazy-mad IN-sane, at least when he goes into a record store. Put the gloves on him and put him in the ring and I bet he's even crazier-madder IN-saner. Jack DeJOHNSONette, I'd bet!

I've always really dug Sulieman and he's more or less a forgotten player (and always kind of was), but that price is about $10.00 more than I'd feel comfortable paying for a straight-up LP issue unless it was really "special". And it very well might be that special. But I'd like to know first.

Caravan Of Dreams had a label that released both live and studio recordings.

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Can't speak to the quality of the "popularly priced" LP reissues. I reflexively avoid "those type things". As far as vinyl rips, though, there was one blog in paritcular that fully consumated its relationship with the Black Jazz catalog, if you know what I mean. Don't know if its still up or not. It was a good place to sort through everything before purchasing legit copies of various items, I'll say that.

To address the OP's concern - no, do not pursue Black Jazz sides through that site. I've heard enough anecdotal evidence from enough people over enough years for me to make a strong recommendation to seek the material from other sources, of which there have been many, old and new. Couple that with the recent listing of the alleged master tapes on Craigslist, and a picture emerges of a business that for whatever reason(s) has not gained traction as a reliable direct outlet. Although, there was (still is?) an Amazon Marketplace Black Jazz store that people seemed to have success with. As far as the sound, it vaires from session to session. Like Strata-East and many other musician-ran labels of the era, production was variable, probably due to a mixture of inexperience, financial limitations, and good old-fashioned not knowing any better. But I've not noticed any real loss of quality between original LPs & later CDs, if that's the concern.

Each of us has to decide for ourselves the best way to spend our finite time left on Earth, I guess. But, you gotta ask yourself: "is obscurity for obscurity's sake worth anything, really, other than the ability to say 'hey look at me I like music that nobody else even knows about'?". I've long ago asked myself that question, as well as "is being an insufferable prick about other peoples' intrests really worth anything, really, other than scratching my itchy, pussy, wounded soul?" I ask myself lots of questions!

Like George Harper, that's like what. And Rudolph Johnson. And Frank Gordon with The Awakening. and the Chester Thompson album, minus the trombone player, who is more spirited than he is able, but even that was a part of what was going on then. I heard Doug Carn on the radio damn near every night for 4-5 years, so yeah, that's a lifestyle. Good luck on that ever happening again.

Nice!

OMG IS JACK DEAD?!?!?!?!?

Lived with these albums in real time, always enjoyed them, but always wanted stronger (relatively speaking) bass players. Seems like the whole thing could have gone to another level with that. But, not my band, and still, good, often excellent music.