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Heard in full on this standalone CD (or other versions of the same thing, it's out there, and has been for a while now): https://www.amazon.com/Softly-Morning-Sunrise-Germany-Stash/dp/B000QZWQFG I have 3/4 (no rhythm changes) of it on this back-in-the-day bootleg. It's good enough to have once, but I heard no trumpet, nor would I expect to. Just sayin'...I'd get the impulse! albums elsewhere. I mean, you gotta look askance at an outfit that steals a reissue cover of Today and Tomorrow and tells you that Coltrane is plaing trumpet, I mean, c'mon, these motherfuckers ain't even trying....

Great shoes on everybody, each in their own way! Any idea when this was taken?

Miami is the new Kansas City, Arnold Johnson snowballs to Jeter, kids, these are blasting caps, DON'T TOUCH 'EM.

Pretty much unless and until a new system of power type happens that renders current (no pun intended) electricity unusable, it's pretty much on us to find what we find and to keep it in some kind of playable form, so that if your kids don't want to just junk it all when you die, it can maybe find a new appreciative home. And don't worry about finding/preserving "everything", nothing will "be around" forever, nor should it be, that is not natural and it is really kind of perverse to try to make it be.

Glad to hear this, email sent!

Tommy, does you still hz some?

I read and listen simultaneously all the time, with no preferred combination of media. Could be anything, usually is. It's funny, though - I'll rad a liner note of a book or a magazine while listening at home, I'm pretty disciplined as far as effectively being able to multitask like that, but I will not, except for the most extreme urgency crack open program notes a t a concert. It pisses me off when I find myself doing that. Read that shit before or after the music, not during it. Maybe it's that a live concert is a truly live performance and a record is not, but I dunno, that's a line I draw pretty strongly for myself. But I remember reading that Ervin essay, somebody posted it on here, it was when we were out of the house for a few nights due to some remodeling. I was reading it on my wife's iPad (she's the Apple in the house) and had some kind of Booker Ervin playlist going on YouTube on another tab/window/pane wtf Apple calls their shit. All through ear buds in a hotel bed with MSNBC on the TV and Brenda talking to a friend on her phone. I such a scenario, a CD or a magazine or a pamphlet or a printout or anything extra above what was already going on would have felt like piling on, especially since the contractor was trying to play the probably Wednesday, definitely Friday, absolutely no later than the next Monday. It's time like that when I truly cherish the possibilities of virtual media. When I'm home, hell yeah, hard copies please, usually, almost always, definitely no more than almost certainly (Things I Learned From the Contractor for $200, Alex). But outside of that bubble, hey...

He says he's unscripted, but maybe not completely? Sure sounds like a prepared talk to me. I get some red flags when he talks about publishing giving musicians a good source of income. And then how he talks about collectors as owners. So what ownership is he tralking about, the ownership of the intellectual property or the ownership of the physical reproductions of that property. Maybe those are two sides of the same coin, but if I call heads and it lands tails, I don't kinda win the coin-toss because, oh well, it's still the same coin. At some point....Public Domain laws have to come into this. I'm no fan of generically written laws that paint all aged property as worthy of the same color on the same brush, but I still can't tell if he's arguing to save the business or save the music. Again, two sides of the same coin, but only perhaps. We're still pretty embryonic about artists owning product as well as the means of distribution, and the old school gonna hold on to whatever turnips have even a drop of blood left in them, because that's all they know. None of this current-state is sustainable, but I guess the dinosaurs died slowly as well as surely. One more thing - how sure are we the indefinite "preservation" is a desirable thing, as the mode of preservation continues to move from transmission of idea to force-feeding literal reproduction? It seems like the longer we go with wanting reproduction, the less of an appetite we develop for interpretation (or re-interpretation). Movies mostly suck, music mostly sucks, everything mostly sucks, it's either a tantrum of disaffection or some kind of tribute in the form of reference, not culture, but mass hypnosis/brainwashing about what it "means to be____". Enough of that, please! Oral traditions is not really encouraged as things unto themselves, they've at best viewed as fodder for more literal statements. At some point, if a hard drive gets two full, it slows down, and, at some point, just stops working altogether. I'm thinking that "culture" is doing that today. Yes, it would be a terrible thing to lose all of that history, but it would be even more terrible, imo, if we became incapable of looking forward without being able to only see backward. Sure, no sense in reinventing the wheel, but - what if we get so hung up on the wheel that it blinds us to the possibility of something even better? And also, is it possible that the energy from inventing something and then refining it is a lot more...wholesome/energizing/positive than is the process of then controlling it and seeking to "own" it long after that thrill is gone? The only real "problem" with "ownership" is the concept itself. A noble owner, imo, sees their function to be as much steward/shepherd as asset holder/controller. Always fluid, not fixed forever.

Tommy sounds really busy with a lot of things, and I don't want to burden him now that he's filled his first run of preorders. I got busy myself when the original offer was made, so that's on me, you snooze you lose, etc.

From whom did you order, Allen?

If the liner notes are the selling point, why sell the music at all? The Ervin essay was indeed excellent, but it's been posted online, right? Taht's where I read it. And all the records have already come out in all kinds of ways. So is the strategy here to use the essay to sell me an online essay that I've already read?

Either Amazon is totally clueless (my guess) or else there's a repressing coming on December 14: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Lansdowne-Recordings-QUINTET-RENDELL/dp/B07J2T5DDT/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1544567075&sr=1-1&keywords=don+rendell

Let's pretend...they got 5 copies in and got 15 people who wanted it, leaving 10 people who didn't. Are ya' with me so far? Now, let's assume that at some point they were able to get 3 more at some point, somehow. This is a limited edition, right? AND an import. AND currently going for $1,000,000.00 (+ shipping) on the resale market! https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/845164128 Ok, they know that they are going to sell those 3 somehow, So what are they going to do, go back and check timestamps on all orders and send out 3 emails to the three oldest orders? And then wait for how long? And sit on that eminently saleable merchandise for how long to send out to unfilled order #4 becuase #2 emailed backl a week later and said, oh, sorry for the delay, I was on vacation, and besides I found one laready/ Etcetcetcetc. That kind of strategy is #1 inefficient for anybody, and #2 not really vaible for a shop like DG. The only inventory that is not on the web site (that I know of) is the really trashed LPs and stuff in the "bargain basement" (and when my daughter was in there, we Skyped as she thumbed though some of that...and I had her pull a few things. You gotta hustle!). Point being, turnover and cash flow. Sell what you have and try to only8 have what you can sell. They're still in business, hey.

Will this be up on Amazon soon? I hope?

And as far as Mosaic, their backordering is perfectly fine with me, because that's how they ride. What's pissed me of is the recent trend towards ninny-level "oh gosh are we going to do it or not, let's ask all our littel friends what we should do because oh gosh, i don't know, this is all too hard, oh gosh. OK NEVER MI?ND WE GET MERCH, but now oh bopther what to do NOW? I mean, that's not very business like nore Mosaic like, really. Just make a decision and stick with it. Go out of business, go to a pre-order model, just pick something and stick with it. I think most people will tell you that consistency and predictability of outcome is why keeps a customer. It's when shit starts getting hinky that people waiver and bail.

I am preaching to you, Kevin, yes YOU! - not as a moderator, but as a fellow citizen who works to get the shit I want instead of just clickin' and hopin' (as per the old Dusty Springfield song we all know and love) - that you need a better grasp of the way shit works at Dusty Groove and to act like a grown-ass adult about getting the shit you want. The first thing is fact, the second a suggestion, but in both cases, yes, I am right. Not because I say so, but because that is the way shit works. Don't take my word for it, just look at your experience and ask yourself, hmmm, maybe I should have a reality based Plan B instead of a hope-basedon-unfounded-expectations Plan Cypher. I have called Dusty Groove in the middle of the afternoon and had them pull an item from the shelf while I placed the order online - and did not get off the line until we were all on the same page about order placed/order pulled because that's how bad I wanted that item. They thought it was weird, but I know how they do - they pull shit from the shelves to pull orders and if they process your order at 5:15 in the afternoon and some random pedestrian buys it in the store at 5:14, hey, fuck you, that item is now out of stock. They ain't no warehouse outlet mega-barn, they're a basic brick-and-mortar, and what they have on the shelf is what is on the site, and vice-versa. Period. That's how they do, so that's what you gotta do if you want it bad enough. And if you don't want it bad enough to do it like that, don't go there. Buy your shit someplace else. Either way, man up and stop whining. And for real dawg, you can't get email on your phone?

It actually means exactly what it said - that you're item was out of stock and that you will be notified when it comes back into stock. And then, if you are still interested and have not found it someplace else (and I don't know about you, but for stuff like this, that I know will be a limited release, I keep looking until I find one, I don't wait for somebody to get back to me. I'm kind of adult like that, really, taking responsibility for getting the outcome I desire and not being dependent upon the vaguires of international commerce and limited availabilities, it's my job to get it, and to keep looking until I do). It sounds like they told you how it was gonna go, and that's how it's going, and that you "assumed" something other than the reality. I mean, hope IS a motivator, but no, it is not a strategy. Besides, Dusty no doubt sells enough used material and definitely has a business model of keeping limited inventory, so it probably makes sense to them to treat all orders the same - that Kenyatta/Stitt LP took over a year to come back around, and they did what they said they were going to do. If they get more of this thing (whatever it is, UK Hardbop or something like that?) in this afternoon, they will again do exactly what they said they were going to do. There practice is long-standing and has remained consistent. Proceed accordingly and don't expect them to change. When you get the initial invoice and it shows anything out of stock, not available, etc. start looking elsewhere or else just wait. And don't order a Filet o'Fish and then bitch that it's ain'g got no beef.

Jesus, just have the email come to your phone if there's that much urgency. I mean, I had that Rufus Harley album with Sonny Stitt fail my first order of it, and they put me on that notify list. It took more than a year, but when they got one back in, I got that email. It's good sense, really. It's better for them to hit you back and say hey, we got this,now do you still want it? than to say, hey this cat ordered it, let's just bill and send. In the interim, you find the same item someplace else and then one day there's a box waiting for you and you get all WTF? and call them up and tell them hey fockers, i already got his, i didn't ask you to send it again, and then there's all that drama that nobody needs. Besides, they deal in limited quantities. The one that they sent you that you didn't want and now they have to wait for you to send it back, could have already found a stable home and they've gotten their money. This is the way they've always done it. Seriously.

They've been doing that for years. And they do send you an email notification when the item comes back in.

perhaps not for every taste.

And a totally wonderful listening experience, those pieces in that order. 78 minutes of captivation. And the "ECM sound" is just as present on this music as it is on everything else the label does,.It is what it is and it does what it does.

Yes!

'Vicho' Vicencio? This guy? Geez, how old is he anyway? http://www.carolmarksmusic.com/vicho.htm https://metrodanceclubdfw.org/vicho-vicencio-orchestra-profile/ http://bravoentertainment.com/talent/vicho-vicencio-dance-band/

Only in the quote. But still....