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AH HA it all makes sense now. Remember some of us were not around during the (obviously) glory days of the BNBB!

Just made me think - what would Larry Young have done with "The yodel" - the mind boggles! MG Crikey!!!! What a thought!!! Larry would've been all over it. I wonder if Grant and Larry ever crossed over the set lists that Grant and BIg John played. Like maybe if Grant had a gig on the fly or something.

I'm sure he said "ALL" the Beatles records! I think he may have been having some fun though. Thanks for reminding me to find some Bill Heid recordings....sounds like I'm gonna hear some special stuff. Love his anecdote in the Grant Green book about humbugging Grant to sit in with him and play The Yodel. What a great story!

Here comes Chewy ... lol Randy has starred in 30. Well, Pretty Purdie starred in one... Lialeh MG I remember reading an interview with Pretty Purdie where he say's that HE played drums on all the Beatles albums as well. Did he do the soundtrack as well?

I personally like the Patton JRVG's because I hear more detail in Grant's comping on them and also because they seem to have more BOT-TOM.

FWIW, I think Ponder's playing on the extra "Grass Roots" session, and "That Certain Feeling" (which I only heard for the first time less than a year ago), are tops among my all-time favorite 60's recordings with guitar. Yes!!!! What a shame he didn't get the amount of session time his playing so obviously deserved during these years. I remember reading an older thread that mentioned the missed opportunity of Ponder not recording with Larry Young, and can only reiterate those sentiments. I too only got to hear 'That Certain Feeling' for the first time this year and still can't believe these tunes were written during the session. I think it makes a great companion piece to the extra Grass Roots session as well. Thanks for the thoughts everyone regarding Common Touch. It's going for a song and found where I least expected it. In fact they've got two copies.

thanks for the info Shaft. I have the TOCJ and the Mosaic box version. It's just that I've got all the JRVG Patton's accept that one, and I feel somehow incomplete not having that as well. so your thumbs up for sound is a big plus.

Just seen a copy of this one. I am blown away by Jimmy Ponders playing on 'Grass Roots' and John Patton's 'That Certain Feeling'. Does Jimmy have as much room to move on this one as well. Any thoughts on this session?

Oh Baby!!!!!!! Which one is a better remaster? The Mosaic or the JRVG.

Enjoying this thread. I must admit I got a surprise when I looked at the liner notes on Arthur Blythe's Columbia release Elaborations and found George Butler's name on it. To quote an old and much remembered TV character....'You've made my day...you have Butler'

If you wanna hear old Joe in a playing situation that is 'uncharacteristic', check him burning and poppin in a soul jazz format with Charles Kynard, on a session that I think is added onto Kynards "Soul Brotherhood' cd re-issue. Although it might be "Aphro-Disiac', not sure. Boy Pass could make it real in any situation! And one hell of an obstinate man to boot, apparently.

Yes this is such a great performance. Benson just sounds so involved in the music on this one. Sometimes I feel he is at a bit of a distance from being truly inside the music on some of his other Blue Note appearances. Not on this one though. sounds like he's really gettin down with his buddies here. What a band!

There can't possibly be enough threads lamenting the abandoning of the great Jazzmatazz site. Who cares if they are redundant? Sure beats the incessant threads obsessing over some trivial issue of minor sonic variation on the umpteenth reissue of some old warhorse. Maybe more threads will encourage the revival of Jazzmatazz or the emergence of a quality alternative, it's ansence is a huge loss. Agreed

Was Stanley Turrentine born before 1930?

Sorry guts how could I get 32jazz wrong and say 52. One of my favourite re-issue labels and sorely missed. I always thought the re-issue I have on 32 sounds great too. Just love this session so much I'd definitely buy a different remaster as well if i knew that Five-Four or Savoy had returned to the original source for their issues, rather than, (as I had presumed), just re-issued 32jazz's version.

I've got the 52jazz re-issue of this. Is the Savoy five-four reissue an update in any way, ie different master, more sleeve info etc, (although it doesn't sound like any new info judging by these posts). Should I just get the Savoy for the original cover art? Bearing in mind this is my favourite recording...ever...accept maybe for Let Em Roll.....or Big John's 6cd set of the St. Mathew Passion at Covent Garden, arranged by George Butler!!!!!

Yeh it's pathe marconi...I don't understand these posts at all??? Who's Hans?

Wow Chewy I always thought it was a free ticket to the gig that was about to go down, or something. I missed out on this on Cd. It was one of the first Blue Note LPs I ever bought...a loooong time ago. A French parthe re-issue if I'm not mistaken. Can't wait to revisit this on remastered cd. Cool!!!!!!!!

Just to further echo the thumbs up for these posts DMP. When you have never seen your heroes from this era and you rely on liner notes and books, these recollections mean a LOT

I am sitting on the other side of the world to you guys so the Club Mozambique hasn't landed yet. This thread is helping to keep the anxiety down while I wait to hear it. Actually I think being able to read these posts will make finally hearing this cd even more special. Wow! Can someone tell me if there is a blues on this, say in the Ease Back mould or not. Just wondering.

I,m sure it's a japanese RVG.

Yeh, that Turrentine session sounds wonderful. It just seems like it would have that great kind of Blue note late sixties vibe...Is this maybe one of those sessions that someone may have heard ie one that has escaped the vaults? Is the Right Touch a Japanese RVG title I seem to remember seeing it avaliable and making a mental note to get a copy when I could afford it.

Yes thank you soulstream for helping me learn a little bit more about this great musician and composer. Sure wish I could be at your gig to hear you playing these tunes. I will listen to big john and grant on cd instead and keep trying to unravel some of Grant's comping pattern moves on these great performances.

OMG THAT WOULD BE SO KICKASS! ESPECIALLY IF YOU WOKE UP A ZOMBIE HANK MOBLEY AND HE CAME BURSTING UP OUT OF HIS GRAVE AND ATE YOUR BRAIN. HE MIGHT NEED SOMETHING ELSE TO EAT AFTER THAT, THOUGH... This thread is scaring me and making me laugh at the same time

His daughter-in-law's bio says drugs, without specifying which. I just looked at my single of "Canteloupe woman" and it's a cut out. I don't think I've ever seen another jazz single that's a cut-out. I take that to imply that it didn't sell nearly as many as Verve expected it to. That leads to the conclusion that Verve had the willingness to try to push the single. So why didn't it make it? Can't tell, of course, but it could have been down to GG. MG From the Nov 63 recording of Idle Moments to the April 66 recording of Got a Good Thing Going a span of roughly two a bit years Grant Green left a legacy of sessions that could be considered unsurpassed in jazz guitar beauty, lyricism and intensity during such a short period of time. This includes the (at the time it was recorded) state of the art sessions with Tyner and Jones, all of the Green, Young and Jones recordings and the brilliant culmination of his recorded patnership with Big john Patton on Let Em Roll and GAGTG...this run of sessions pretty much ending with the recording we know as Iron City and the "two mysterious and apparently unheard sessions that may or may not still exist in the verve vaults". Is their the possibility someone can confirm whether anyone might be able to verify if these tapes still exist.??... Not me Guv; I only know what's in the discographies. BTW, surely you should go back at least to the sessions with Sonny Clark in talking about that legacy. Oh, and the period you're interested in also included Art Blakey's "Hold on, I'm comin'", and George Braith's very friendly "Laughing soul". MG Oh yeh everything from before Idle moments is equally as brilliant...Greenstreet,Granstand all the Sonny Clarke stuff,Sunday Morning, Feeling the Spirit etc al, I was just trying to make a context for the those unheard Verve's as being perhaps the culmination of a certain period of development for Grant, that's all....maybe these sessions weren't so great when compared to maybe Iron City or Talking About but we'll never know if no informed ears have heard them. I tend to agree with you that it may not have been the quality of the music that left them unissued at the time but rather just the circumstances of grant's ability or willingness to actively promote them within the conventions or expectations of the time. remember that Wes was also beginning his big crossover appeal on Verve at this time, and maybe the label thought it more practical to focus on one, more reliable artist, rather than both of them. I remember seeing on ebay a promotional document from this time announcing the release of HMKF and a new Wes recording...something along the lines of 'listen to the two masters of modern jazz guitar' or something like that....so maybe after these releases they just went more exclusively with Wes...and this would back up your thoughts I guess. So who knows what was captured during those sessions...more masterpeices or just some nice and greasy goodies in keeping with that time. Interestingly in the SAG book Elvin Jones talks about the 1965ish era as being Grant's most sublime moment. BTW I dig Laughing Soul lots, love the twin guitar comps and cool fairground like themes. Haven't been able to find the Blakey yet...so haven't heard it.