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Oh dear, Coltranes at centre half forward where do we play Mobley

Holiday equates to vacation.

Well some of his wrong guesses were more interesting than the right ones. And anyway what was that BB King thing Feather played him. On paper it looks like some kind of recording of BB impersonating a field caller.

As soon as I saw these articles getting posted I was hoping this blindfold test would pop up. Having known of its existence but never finding a copy. So thanks heaps jsangry. Actually I don't think Grant comes off as myopic as I thought he might, given the realities identified above, ie his experiential learning and so called immersion in Donaldson's 'taking care of business' perspective. That he was aware of the Coryell-Burton band was surprising to me actually. although I have no idea of the kind of profile they might have had at that time. Coryell though has documented many times the influence of Grant. There is a really great bit in his recent autobiography that recollects seeing Green-Young and Candy Finch at a place called Wells' Bar.

Interesting that Lou mentions in the liner notes to Say It Loud that he would have played with the Benson, Smith, Muhammad band for nothing. Doesn't sound like the recollections of someone that wasn't totally into the music he was making at this time.

Interesting

Speaking for myself at the time I heard it I had no other Grant Green to compare it to. While I wouldn't rank it over or close to the Sonny Clark sessions I do have a strong sentiment for it. Just for the work by Herbie and Grant on it I feel it deserves some positive merit. Well I think this was one of the first Grants to be issued on cd. So it might be a session that was an introduction of sorts to Grant for a lot of people. It was certainly one of the very first ones I heard. True it isn't up there with the Sonny Clark collaborations, Idle Moments etc. but I think the pathos in Grant's sound matches the yearning melancholy of the tunes in a good way. Whereas Goin West brings out the playfulness in Grant's music perhaps. Maybe not essential but still indespensible for me. Interesting that Grant revisited some of these tunes on Iron City. Did they remain part of his live repertoire perhaps?

Actually MG, do you think your wife might be able to locate the Green Acid tapes for us? Nobody else seems to be having any luck. Ha ha. If she did, she'd burn them. MG Prefers the straight ahead Grant?

Actually MG, do you think your wife might be able to locate the Green Acid tapes for us? Nobody else seems to be having any luck.

Live at the Club Mozambique - Lonnie Smith Grass Roots - Andrew Hill Contrast - Larry Young Accent on the Blues - John Patton That Certain Feeling - John Patton Rusty Bryant Returns - Rusty Bryant Live at the Lighthouse - Grant Green Carryin On - Grant Green Soul Brotherhood - Charles Kynard Say it Loud - Lou Donaldson Chosen from what I've got. Haven't heard the entire sessions for Alligator Boogaloo or El Hombre yet, or any of the Stitt/Patterson stuff like the Left Bank. So figure they would be otherwise included when I do.

That's not entirely true. Gates used to worship Big John but never forgave him for hiring James Blood Ulmer and has had a vendetta against him ever since.

Welcome! I have both the Japanese and the domestic RVGs. . . the US RVG sounds GREAT! I didn't know anything could sound better than the JRVG version. I'II have to get the USRVG while it's still cheap and avaliable. A good excuse to listen to this great session again.

Anyone have any information on this? Is it good? Available? Available from CD Baby. Read what SoulStream said in the sleeve notes, which are printed on the CD Baby site. Personally, I wouldn't be without it. MG It's a special kind of recording I think, and needs to be appreciated in the context expressed in the liner notes. When is Soul Connection coming out on CD?

Could this session be considered Benson's best contribution to a Blue Note date?

Damn it I've missed the cut off date.

Well I'd love to get any kind of Grant. Like you say chewy, they're probably in the hands of collectors with beards.

Big John and Grant doing Jean de Fleur great tune, its got to be a good listen.

Happy Birthday MG and many happy returns!!!!!!! Take it EASY!!!!!!!!!!

I've had several versions of "Iron city" on LP and CD and I've never thought it was an RVG session (but what do I know? I can't tell the difference between most BN LPs and RVG or McMaster CDs back to back). But the Verve discog doesn't actually SAY it was RVG (though that's pretty certain, given how much Creed Taylor used RVG). MG Well I've never really felt it was an RVG session. Perhaps because the sound and levels b/t the organ and guitar are not as seamless as you'd expect (or my own ears suggest) they are on other sessions. That is not to say that it's not an RVG maybe mitagating circumstances made it an anamoly of the times. Who Knows. Surely anyone still alive that was involved in the Verve sessions would have memory of Grant doing Chim Chm Cheree. Is Ben Dixon still alive? Does he ever speak about this time in his career. Maybe the Iron City as we know it might have a context with the TV tapings documented by the photo in jaziz of Grant,Larry and Ben Dixon??? I still think the presence of Fat Judy suggests big John is involved. Why don't you have 'Sunday Morning' Chewy,, Don't you like Grant with piano? and they do a film theme,'let my people go"

I can't remember which actual topic MG but right about the time I first posted I mentioned this session. It might be in the thread about 'Live at the Club Mozambique' or in a GG re-issue thread, but I mentioned these sessions and you did say that they were lost. And I was devastated and still am. BUT perhaps they are in existance 'somewhere'. Whenever I am reminded of this discography listing I think of Elvin Jones saying in the Andrews Green biog that he thought Grant reached a plateau in 1965, and that everything he played at that time was sublime. I also think Peter Leitch's description of Grant's lines as 'existing on some celestial plane' from the liner notes of HMKF as also being a great description. So we are still left to wonder what/who these performances captured. If they ever surface perhaps they could be released as "Grant's Last Standards". Thanks for starting this topic MonkBoughtLunch. BTW, did anyone see the latest copy of Jazziz with all those great photos of the 60's guitar heroes taken at the TV station. An amazing photo of GG and Larry Young. Now what is the context for these photos? Are they 1960's television tapings? Lost to posterity too, I suppose.

These truly are untold jazz histories.

I've got them here and I'm not giving them back until those Verve sessions are found.

A befuddled Holy Ghost suggests that maybe they should shampoo and condition the crop circles and then maybe they'll go away. hhmmmm..the freelancer wants to know if crop circles is one of those new age Pat Metheny albums with synths.

I thought Basketball was played indoors.

OH that's really dissapointing. Does this mean the Verve catalogue was not looked after as well as, say the Blue Note archives. Or that the masters just may have become unlistenable over time due to negligence. The King Funk session was recently and beautifully remastered by Universal Japan, and presented in great mini lp format. The insert which is in Japanese (those ones that are authored Wings may have relevant info but not reading Japanese I can't tell).