Guy Berger

I dig this record a lot. In fact, at some point a few months ago I ended up putting it on the iPod after probably a year or two (at least) of not listening to it. And upon hearing it, I thought "wow this guy's music is good". The album loses focus a little near the end, but there's good stuff the whole way through and "Foot Under Foot" has really juicy, unabashed inside/outside playing. I think I've used that phrase about 5 times today but it really fits here. I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't heard any of Jason's other work, though he might be playing synths (?) on a Steve Coleman album that I have. Guy

Hmmm... I've given Dance a few listens, and must say that I'm a little disappointed thus far. Izenzon's playing is spectacular, but I wish Brackeen (whose records I must check out!) would play more tenor and less soprano. A lot less intense than what I was expecting, except on the wonderful "Prelude". Guy

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I'd restate this as "he is the daddy of Keith Jarrett's more avant-garde playing." Guy

First, apologies if this topic has already been done... I'll delete it and post there if I missed it. Second, this struck me as a harder "mood" than "rainy afternoon" or "summer day" or "beautiful spring day" or "hot summer night" or whatever. One of those days when it's beautiful & sunny outside, maybe some snow on the ground, but also cold. Or, depending on where you live, really frickin' cold. So let's have your suggestions (and make a special effort to pick non-ECMs). Favorites? Charles Lloyd, Canto, Hyperion with Higgins, The Water Is Wide Miles Davis, Kind of Blue (not sure why) non-jazz Jean Sibelius -- Symphonies 5-7 (4 if it's more overcast and/or really cold) Guy

Yeah, it's a tough division. Though 4th or 5th place isn't terrible -- because of the new/stupid/unnecessary seeding policy induced by the realignment, being 2nd or 3rd in the division (=>4th or 5th seed in the conference, given the rest of the conference) means that you have very tough matchups in the 1st and 2nd rounds (Indiana or LeBron, then Detroit). 6th or 7th seeds, definitely within the Bucks' reach, are probably better. In other news, the Warriors are (very temporarily) at the top of their division at 12-6. Granted, it's not as strong as the Central, and they haven't beaten many good teams, but gotta savor it while we can. Visits from Phoenix & Detroit late next week as well as an upcoming road trip back east should make things interesting, hopefully they will step up. (Whoops: I just saw that Jim beat me to the punch!) It's worth bitching about the new division realignment one more time, or rather the seeding policy that comes with it. So stupid, I can't imagine that Stern will hang onto it for much longer. Can he? Stupid for two reasons: 1) The record-based seeds start lower than before (hence the perverse incentive to tank your games if you can't grab a division title). Whereas before even if you couldn't win your division, you still wanted to win the #3 seed to have 1st round homecourt and avoid the #1 team in the 2nd round, now you'd rather tank a little near the end in order to avoid facing the #4/#5 team (ex -- in the west this year it looks like they will be Dallas & Memphis). Better to play the #3 team, which could very conceivably have a worse record than you. 2) The divisions are smaller, so it's much likelier that a crappy team like the Nets or 76ers will grab a high seed, which feeds into the perverse incentives described in #1. Fucking idiocy. Guy ps The Grizzlies are playing some incredible basketball right now -- they've won their past four games by an average of over 20 ppg. Who'da thunk it?

It's not a decade I know a whole lot about, but some jazz recordings from the 80s that I like: Horace Tapscott, The Dark Tree (Hatology) -- quartet with John Carter (cl), Cecil McBee (b), Andrew Cyrille (dr). Intense inside/outside music. Tapscott was an excellent composer and pianist somewhere along the Duke-Monk-Cecil continuum (apologies if I am stealing someone else's phrase). Don Pullen & George Adams, At the Village Vanguard vols 1 & 2 (Black Saint or Soul Note) -- Similar group to the one on the Mosaic Select above. Excellent inside/outside music. Paul Motian, Monk in Motian (JMT/Winter & Winter) -- Motian's unusual and noteworthy trio with Joe Lovano and Bill Frisell tackles the music of you know who. Geri Allen & Dewey Redman guest on two tracks apiece. Not necessarily my favorite album by this group, but it's excellent nonetheless. Dewey Redman & Ed Blackwell, Red and Black: Live in Willisau (Black Saint or Soul Note) -- Is this 80s or 70s? Either way, great musical dialogue by two underrated musicians. Pat Metheny, 80/81 (ECM) -- One of Metheny's more jazz-oriented albums, with Dewey Redman, Charlie Haden, Jack DeJohnette and Michael Brecker. Some intense stuff. I like it better than the album with Ornette (Song X, also worth checking out) due to a smaller dose of guitar synth. Keith Jarrett, Still Live (ECM) -- Not necessarily my favorite standards trio set, but disc 1 (w/a superb "The Song Is You") is really really good. Joe Henderson, State of the Tenor vols 1 & 2 (Blue Note) -- w/Ron Carter and Al Foster. More "academic" than the 60s BN Joe, but also one of those albums that you put on and think, "this guy is damn good". Weather Report, Procession (Columbia/Sony) -- w/Victory Bailey and Omar Hakim. Better than the 80s albums with Jaco, IMHO; not sure why, but it seems like Wayne and Joe made a special effort once Jaco and Peter Erskine left. Guy

Sleeper. This is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Especially when the doctors are shocked that his character won't eat deep fried fat. Guy

I was somewhat disappointed with McCoy both times I've seen him (trio & quintet). Worth seeing, but maybe not more than once. YMMV. Guy

After reading this thread, I feel a little better about yesterday's OJC binge. Guy

Jim, My condolences Guy

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Sigh... I'm still pissed off at myself about this binge. I tried to be picky too... and didn't even touch the Coleman Hawkins catalogue... Also tried to avoid stuff that's received 20K remasters since I figure those are popular enough to stay in the catalogue. If some of those Art Peppers I want go OOP I'll go postal. Guy ============================================================= Qty Title Total for this Title ============================================================= 1 Cry (Ltd) $9.99 [Lasha & Simmons] ============================================================= 1 Three & The Two $7.99 [shelly Manne] ============================================================= 1 Tomorrow Is The Question $7.99 [Ornette Coleman] ============================================================= 1 Screamin The Blues $7.99 [Oliver Nelson] ============================================================= 1 Peacemeal $7.99 [Lee Konitz] ============================================================= 1 Soprano Sax $7.99 [steve Lacy] ============================================================= 1 Teddy''''s Ready $7.99 [Teddy Edwards] ============================================================= 1 This Is Criss $7.99 [sonny Criss] ============================================================= 1 Stardust Sessions $12.79 [John Coltrane] ============================================================= 1 Blues Book $7.99 [booker Ervin] ============================================================= 1 Right Now: Live $7.99 [Charles Mingus] ============================================================= 1 Plus Max Roach $7.99 [Charles Mingus] ============================================================= 1 Introducing Paul Bley $7.99 ============================================================= 1 Something To Live For $9.99 [Art Farmer] ============================================================= 1 Sail Away $7.99 [Tom Harrell] ============================================================= 1 Blackstone Legacy $12.79 [Woody Shaw - 2nd attempt!] ============================================================= 1 Stratusphunk $7.99 [George Russell] ============================================================= 1 Outer View $7.99 [George Russell] ============================================================= 1 West Coast Sound 1 $7.99 [shelly Manne] ============================================================= 1 Music $9.99 [Dewey Redman] ============================================================= 1 Latin American Suite $7.99 [Duke Ellington] ============================================================= 1 Awakening $9.99 [Jimmy Woods] ============================================================= 1 Conflict $9.99 [Jimmy Woods] ============================================================= 1 Metamorphosis $9.99 [Don Friedman] ============================================================= 1 Day In The City $9.99 [Don Friedman] =============================================================

Sigh... made a huge order at alldirect for $225. Not everything I wanted was in stock but I got way too much stuff regardless. Guy

Mine arrived so fast I think Chuck drove it here himself. I won't get a chance to listen to it until 2006 due to a humongous backlog (plus I want to hear Roscoe's Sound first) but looking forward to it. Where is the box #? Guy

The schedule, despite its hecticness, has been pretty soft for the Warriors so it's a little premature to be going nuts over the 10-6 start but still -- this is nice! I don't think we've had a start this good, this far into the season, in a long time. It looks like Baron and Dunleavy Jr. are shaking off their early-season difficulties and Diogu is instantly contributing real numbers off the bench. Can't wait for the French Jordan to come back. Hopefully we'll actually beat a good team soon, though all the Pistons fans will have a chance to laugh at us when they visit the arena next week. Guy

Interestingly enough, I dug out Dao recently and found it to be much more listenable than I remembered. (I listened to it a lot upon first picking it up, then got worn down by the "somewhat claustrophobic, relentless ensemble sound". My nerves have had time to regenerate since then, I guess.) A nice album. Cryptology, OTOH, is still way too much. Guy

Repugnant sums it up about right. I don't think Mr. Twizzle has made one sincere post in this thread. That includes the topic itself. It seems as if it's nothing but a bad joke. Yup, I think there is a troll under this bridge. A really ugly one. Guy

FWIW, this is a different case. The "original LP sequence" for the Jackson tracks in question wasn't the original issue. This is not true for the Mobley. Guy

Agreed. Don't this kind of shit fucking up the lives of anybody I know. Guy

Yourmusic.com has this, which means it can be picked up super-cheap. The lineup is intriguing. Any recommendations/descriptions? Guy

That may be, but you will have to take it up with the owners of the BS/SN website as well as the critics who participated in the poll. Guy

There were two different tours, one with Coltrane in the spring and one with Stitt in the fall. As far as purchasing -- AFAIK, only some of this material has been officially licensed, right? If you reach a concert that (A) has not been officially licensed and (B) is only available at exorbitant bootlegged prices, I encourage you to consider other modes of acquisition. Here are all the known recordings, according to Pete Losin: w/Coltrane: March 21, 1960 Olympia Theatre, Paris March 22, 1960 Konserthuset, Stockholm March 24, 1960 Tivoli Konsertsal, Copenhagen March 30, 1960 Kongresshalle, Frankfurt March-April 1960 Unknown venue, Unknown city April 1, 1960 Rheinhalle, Düsseldorf April 8, 1960 Kongresshaus, Zürich April 9, 1960 Kurhaus, Scheveningen w/Stitt: September 27, 1960 Free Trade Hall, Manchester October 11, 1960 Olympia Theatre, Paris October 13, 1960 Konserthuset, Stockholm Guy

By the way, a while back BS/SN posted a critics' top ten list for the label. Not sure who the critics were but the list was as follows:

Happy Thanksgiving folks. Make sure to think of something to tell your family you're grateful for. Guy