Guy Berger

Here's a thread I started a while back . Guy

New Lloyd album coming out in April, according to the ECM website:

It's possible but it will be difficult. Guy

Point taken in the way of "names" on Woody recordings (although it should be stressed that some of the aforementioned personnel were broken up into smaller combos on some of the albums, as I'm sure you're aware). At the same time, Miles's most successful groups have very often been touring bands--well-honed, road-worn combos that lasted for years (or at least longer than a recording session or two)... the Jackie McLean groups, 1st great quintet, quintet + Cannonball, second great quintet, the Shorter/Corea/Holland/DeJohnette band, numerous electric combos of variable personnel... Woody's bands are nothing to scoff at, but he certainly had far fewer canonically "great" studio or (especially) touring units than Miles did. Also, it's not THAT unusual to have star-packed record dates. Guy

I think Kirkland is the most interesting musician on this CD. Guy

I listened to this album and Miles Davis's Nefertiti back to back yesterday. The music on Black Codes is heavily influenced by the 2nd Great Quintet, but still quite good despite being derivative. The one thing that's lacking (besides originality) is the "flying by the seat of their pants" feel of the 60s group -- the 80s group has a more conservative sound, more interested in exploring within the boundaries than in pushing them outward. I'm interested in what people thought of this album when it came out, and whether they've changed their mind since. At the time, Wynton was considered by many to be a "saviour of straightahead jazz" -- in retrospect, a very silly idea. (Though I think the contrary idea -- that Wynton was KILLING jazz -- hasn't stood the test of time either.) But it's a historically important strand of a pretty broad "back to the tradition" movement in jazz that started in the late 70s. "Citizen Tain" is maybe the most compelling performance overall. Guy

That is where you are completely wrong. It may take generations, but eventually Woody Shaw will be seen as a greater innovator than Miiles. No way. Guy

There's a name-calling, filthy-mouthed person on the board who bombards other members with vulgar personal messages when he is criticized. Maybe that should be out in the open, don't you think? no, I don't think. Look, you guys obviously have some vendetta going on behind the screnes. Solve it among yourselves and with the administrators if you wish, but please try and keep it from fouling up threads and the board. As much as Dan is calling names, others are starting threads or posting shite to provoke him to do so. Cut the crap, grow up and quit blaming it all on Dan. We all know Dan has a thin skin. He also has a nice side that has contributed quite a bit to these online societies. So maybe y'all can stop to knowingly rub him the wrong way and maybe he can promise not to jump on every little bean in his soup. Agreed. Guy

Maybe in addition to the politics forum we could start a "catfight forum"... Guy

I dug the movie, and my familiarity with Cash is almost nil. Guy

Specifically ? Some specific examples (which include studio recordings): 1) His playing on "Directions" (March 7, 1970, second set). Particularly from 9:37-10:10. 2) His playing on "Right Off" (A Tribute to Jack Johnson) 3) His playing on "What I Say" (December 19, 1970) 4) His playing on "Miles Runs the Voodoo Down" (Bitches Brew). In particular the second solo. But listening to any of the recordings from that period, particularly live, gives the same general impression. Guy

The live recordings from 1967-1970 also put the lie to claims that Miles was a technically "limited" trumpet player. Guy

Wow, I am excited to hear this! Guy

Wynton Marsalis - Black Codes from the Underground (click here to buy) Personnel: Wynton Marsalis (tpt) Branford Marsalis (ts, ss) Kenny Kirkland (p) Charnett Moffett (b) Jeff 'Tain' Watts (d) Please hold off on comments until we finish the current AOTW, just want to give people a heads up so they can pick it up before Sunday.

I'm guessing that his solo on "'Round Midnight" at the 1955 Newport Jazz Festival helped generate a lot of buzz. Guy

Is fasting supposed to be healthy??????? Guy

The reed player on this CD (Mike Friedman) was a friend of mine back in college. Good guy. Guy

His mannerisms are repetitive and get annoying. Guy

The standards for evaluating a box set are sometimes different than those for evaluating an album. Guy

It's somewhat erratic, but I'm starting to think that at it's best the Report is better than the Daily Show. Guy

I will try to make it to this. Guy

I wonder how David Palmer, of all people, discovered information about the upcoming terrorist strike. Hopefully we'll find out -- 24 has a way of leaving loose ends untied. Guy

I agree, it was good. Though it's a shame that we have to say goodbye to some very good characters. Guy

Yup. Totally made up for my car door being frozen shut! Guy

Peterson was a much busier sideman than Evans, I believe... Guy