Big Beat Steve

Thanks, Bluenoter. That might be a way out. I wil keep it in mind.

Have you made an aural comparison with Dragon DRCD369? According to the online discography of Swedish jazz (on www.visarkiv.se), three of the tracks listed above are on that CD: - Chircorenes (spelled Chicarones here) and Sweet and Lovely rec. live in Rönneby, Nov. 10, 1964 - Absolution (spelled Ablution here, could this be the correct title, i.e. the Tristano/Konitz tune recorded by Lars Gulin in 1953?) rec. in Skelleftea, Feb. 23, 1965 Maybe the Anagram CD includes additional tracks from the above dates?

My initial thoughts too... But are there still THAT many libraries overall that still have the funds to indulge in this kind of extravaganza today?

For some reason the link that the thread starter provided is flagged as being "risky" by my PC security system so better use this one: http://www.bear-family.com/en/folk-world/world/va-black-europe.html?force_sid=fca1fad7ee331d3593426ba45fdcc081&&listtype=search&searchparam=black%20europe I've read about this set in BF's news blurb before, and whatever they do in the way of box sets is tops and spells QUALITY but this one defintely is way over the top for me too. Early music in some ways is fine but this is too much prehistoric musical archeology for me. They deserve to be commended for taking on such a project, and no doubt there will be a market (or some internal reason for cross-financing such a "labor of love" from the revenues of other sales), or else they would not have done it at all.

Well, they definitely date back to the 78 rpm era. And they were around from the day that 33 rpm vinyl (in the form of 10in LPs) started. They were far less comprehensive and not something for the completists but many reissues did follow a programming pattern (such as reissuing maybe a dozen series of LPs - or corresponding sets of EPs - from a label's back catalog, each dedicated one major artist and picking their recorded highlights). Just check out the 50s reissues by labels such as Coral, Decca, Capitol and the like. And due to the fact that pressings were much more "national" (and imports were a costly commodity) you'd tend to get a lot of reissues at the same time on different markets. German Brunswick, for example, had reissue series of swing-era music from the old Decca catalog in the late 50s/early 60s that were specific to Germany (they seem to have been marketed elsewhere too but did not have exact matches on other markets AFAIK but rather different reissues, the contents of which of course overlapped in part). And of course even the minors repackaged their 10in releases in 12in form as soon as the 10in format became obsolete among the longplayers (cf. Prestige). Nothing new under the sun there, really ... just an increasingly prevalent "completist reissuing", re-re-repackaging and "scraping the barrel" attitude IMO

Very nice finds! Boogie McCain is harp master Jerry McCain. Thankfully "Stay Out of Automobiles" has been reissued on LP. According to the Leadbitter-Slaven discography, Sticks Evans had two more releases a bit later on. One on Zebra 118, one on Soul (no number). The one you found is indicated as having been recorded in 1957, i.e. relatively late for a 78.

Here's a starter: Eddie Condon Quartet (Condon, Tesch, Sullivan, Krupa) (1928) The Delta Four feat. Roy Eldridge (1935) Clarence Wiliams "& his Orchestra" (Aug. 18, 1933)

Can't get it to work either but judging by the text spread throughout the above link it looks like it is this one: http://www.amazon.com/Heartaches-Number-Country-Greatest-Singles/dp/0826514243

Would be extremely interested in this, but an e-book? Too bad ... Not likely I am going to spring for an e-reader even for this ... Well, we'll see ...

Yes I have, but admittedly I did not make the cnnection with Gennet (or rather their parenty company) acting as a (custom) pressing plant even later on.

Am sort of late to the game (once again) but apart from marveling at the stash of 78s you have - and still manage to unearth, I'd like to comment on a couple of your recent posts. Gennett ("THAT" Gennett?) still in business in 1939?? Don't know if you're familiar with this one, but the book described below has a chapter on Fiddlin' Powers for more background info: Tony Russell - Country Music Originals - The Legends and the Lost http://global.oup.com/academic/product/country-music-originals-9780199732661;jsessionid=E8D24C7C7140A89D1D44986424F3CDA4?cc=de&lang=en& I've got that one. Really fine, and your description "Party record" is quite fitting. For a time in the early 80s I took the plunge (quite an adventure in those pre-internet, pre-Paypal days etc.) to buy 78s from Ray Avery's set sale lists, and I mostly went for the oddball stuff on "indie" labels (small-band swing, R&B, novelty ... which were priced quite OK in those days but fairly rare on his lists anyway, unfortunately). This is one of those that came from that source (which for the most part I bought without having heard the tracks before, just goint on what the titles of the tunes and the "image" of the indie labels suggested, and for the most part I wasn't disappointed...

Might have been an interesting read but would you really want all of us others to take out a "flexible subscription" just to read this? Even your quote shows more than one could read on the site. In short, this link is of little use if you haven't signed up to that particular site. So ... ? FWIW, this review is much more "accessible "(in the strictest sense f the word): http://www.fretboardjournal.com/blog/%E2%80%9C-blues-had-baby-and-they-named-it-rock-and-roll%E2%80%9D-review-john-milward%E2%80%99s-crossroads

Agreed with Jim too. The original all-black glossy covers conveyed an unmistakable Pablo identity. The Ellington reissue cover above looks nondescript ("repackaged") indeed. If I had had to guess the label and if it had been a vinyl reissue I'd guessed something like Affinity (UK) that repackaged earlier jazz from labels such as Bethlehem with such relatively bland "one-cover-fits-all-labels" covers in the 80s. Nothing to wrote home about ...

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Bruyninckx' discography lists the following two trombonists for the June 19, 1945 recordings issued on Aircheck 20: Rodney Roberts, Jack Carmen. Later recording dates (including the August date you are referring to) on the same Aircheck LP are listed as having "similar personnel", but no mention of Ollie Wilson in the section dealing with THIS particular LP.

Keep sayin it - you're right! DUPLICATE threads are no problem, but - like you say - 10 or 15 or 17 threads with exactly the same core subject matter? "Cant be bothered" (with a search) would not be a valid counter-argument anyhow ... I've seen other forums where the "Advanced Search" function is more convenient, but still ... this function MUST work, as several recent threads show that have been resurrected by forumists after having been dormant for years. And I am grateful to them because they brought back to life some interesting discussions that are interesting to read now, even though they may date back to 2005 or so (before I became aware of the forum myself).

As for those numerous new posts by one member linking pointless articles each day, I wish he wouldn't use this board as his personal blog and stop posting those threads. As I see it they're unnecessarily taking up a lot of space and so do those silly album cover threads. Agreed about those pointless links or trivia of little or no PRIMARY interest to most anybody who lurks here for what THIS board is all about ... 10% of those "I'LL start a thread by placing a link that nobody will really know what it's about until he's clicked on the link" would do nicely - and the rest? Expendable ... As for those album cover threads, admittedly they have gone out of hand a little in the choice of SOME topics/common denominators. But some of them are fun - or rather, they could be. HOWEVER ... is there much merit in looting ONLINE album cover sources for stuff, scans, pics? Originally I had understood those album cover threads to mean "See if you can come up with an album cover from your PERSONAL collection that fits the topic" (and in fact this is how I have handled my own - sparse - contributions to these threads throughout). (Sort of a variation of "What are you listening to" - now called "What you've got?") And who knows ... if it wer ehandled exclusively this way then this might spark a brief discussion about this or that album - for everybody's amusement, maybe. But if it's just a case of "I can do an online search faster than you can", then ... what's the point, in the long run?

Had read about this online here before so was not mislead, but had to snicker at the headline anyhow. Over in Austria there is a media "artist" who goes by the name of "Hermes Fettberg". He is as his name suggests, it seems, so one might start wondering what moving him was all about ...

Some visual impression here: http://www.shorpy.com/node/15721?size=_original#caption

But that's what I said and quoted (twice): "ALTERNATE Goodman"! (I'd thought that had made things halfway clear ) It would have been nice to have the master takes chronologically and comprehensively on vinyl back then (and even now) but honestly, with THIS artist I am not enough of a matrix suffix fetichist to whine about the fact that this or that recording may have been accessible as an alternate only and not as the master take. But given how spotty and overlapping the individual LP reissues were (such as those I mentioned above and which seem to to include several of the key CBS reissues, according to AMG) with several tunes being reissued several times and others not at all or not on easily accessible records, The "Alternate Goodman" series indeed seems to be the most comprehensive reissue of the Columbia-era music AS SUCH in ONE place. And if it weren't for the fact (again - already stated above) that this series does not include any alternates of quite a few of the master takes recorded during that era then the question of a comparable MASTER takes reissue SERIES would probably not have been asked at this time.

Thanks four your info, everybody! I hadn't actually thought of the Basie Columbia reissues on the red CBS twofers but it would indeed have been nice if there had been something like that featuring the BG recordings from that period. Looks, then, like the "Alternate Goodman "LP series was the next most comprehensive vinyl reissue (though there were quite a few Columbia recordings that were not represented by alternates in this series, including some of the Stan Getz features mentioned here earlier - which spurred my question).

This kind of "old paper" should be pretty collectible among hardcore fans of the classic Mustangs now.

Sad to see how all this seems to be the same worldwide. You could just as easily do a fact-based story like this in German and relating to the situation here and come up with just as ponderous, cluttering, P.C.-ish but nebulous phrases. What's even more galling is how this entire "social industry" is becoming more and more of a self-centered job creation industry that's more and more concerned with self-management and clerical navel-gazing that does nothing to help the patients but just creates more bureaucracy for everybody, eating up an ever-bigger share of taxpayer's money that goes into keeping up the clerical side of the social industry instead of directing funds into the actual care for those who need the care.

I'm not talking about the JAZZ WORKSHOP ("Jazz-Werkstatt" concert) intra-NDR LP releases of the 60s that have acquired cult status in certain circles. The sessions I am talking about are from the mid-50s or so and predate the "Jazz Workshop" by a long time. Besides, judging from those I caught on radio way back when they were rebroadcast in the early 80s, these 50s NDR recording tapes did not sound like concert recordings but more like real studio recordings (probably originally done for airplay only). But like you said - if the label is like you say then I'd really not set my hopes too high.

NDR must have lots of fine pre-avantgarde (i.e. 50s) Euro jazz in their archives from the time Hans Gertberg ran their jazz section. Many moons (decades) ago they re-aired some of these highlights from their vaults (e.g. collaborations between German and Swedish jazz musicians) late at night on NRD radio. Fascinating (and of course never to be heard again)! 'Bout time they mine THIS and not just the all too obvious bigger than big names in jazz.