Big Beat Steve

Starting a tradition ... http://www.rockremnants.com/2016/12/03/song-of-the-week-magical-misery-tour-national-lampoon-ouch-the-rutles/ Apologies, TO, and all other Merseybeat fans, for this digression ...

Wikipedia indeed says so. Just checked the Wiki entry on the movie too, but not even the German title rings a bell for me. I must have seen the movie at least once but don't remember right now. I see. I came too late for that music but did explore them in my earlier collecting days quite a bit too (not so much anymore in more recent times). Anyway, it's nice to see even the less obvious candidates maintain their audience even outside the UK. Over here and outside dedicated fans the Merseybeat bands today usually fall in the no man's land gap between the Beatles, the Stones, British Blues (Korner, Mayall, Yardbirds, early Moody Blues et al.), a few German "cult" beat bands and 60s soul. I am under the impression even 60s U.S. Garage Punk has more of a subculture following here (among listeners who are way too young to have come of listening age at that time) than Merseybeat bands.

@paul secor: Honestly, no ... That title did not ring a bell (but I am no cineast, at least not in the western movie field). But it's an interesting bit of trivia - thanks ....

Obviously I did NOT associate the title with an "also" John Wayne western movie but was quite surprised that the British Beat invasion has a U.S. fan community (of sorts ) beyond the Beatles to come to the fore on this forum with this kind of detail ...

Maybe the best thing, then, would be to avoid ordering from Germany altogether. After all, according to the latest news twits, ordering from Germany might put the security of your country at peril anyhow ...

Johnny Barbera (ts), Lennie (sic!!) (as), Willie Stader (b), Shannon Fletcher (p), Roy Hall (dr - obviously NOT the pianist of the same name) A bunch of unknowns too.

Aah ... so that's why ... I have Rex 26027 (Johnny Barbera's Quintette - Eastside Bop/Hunter's Dream) and REX is blackened out there too. I had been wondering if someone just had tried out a pot of black paint on the label ....(I do have Onyx 215 too but must admit I never noticed - or remembered - that detail in the liner notes) BTW, "Perdido" on Crown 5008 is distinctly a live recording from the first bars of the rather stride-ish piano introduction so this should be quite unmistakeable. And it has a guitarist present - the above REX line-up does not. @jazztrain: re- that note in your discographical excerpt: Whoever compiled these is not quite correct nor complete re- the LP reissues. Vogue (UK) VJT3003 (a 1970s 3-LP reissue of the 1947 Gene Norman concerts) gives a playing time of 9:29 and I do hear a trombone solo fairly early in the proceedings (contrary to the Crown 5008 version).

I never had a problem with Momex either - did not order from them often but when I did the transactions were excellent and fast and the prices very interesting. As for "a continent away" - caveat emptor and do read the fine print (i.e. address). The shipping problems from the USA to Europe can be at least as much of a headache - if not more. It has yet to happen to me with a seller from Europe that a seller was a complete deadbeat. Happened to me with a US seller via abebooks. Given the foreseeable hassle I left it at that eventually. And twice on eBay.com. One at least refunded the price but communication was zero. Apparently one of those cases where he found he could not be bothered to sell an overstock book item across the pond after all (despite announcing worldwide shipping).

So "took the A Train" actually is a synonymous expression for "left the building"? I wouldn't have thought that the Duke Ellington tune has such a morbid title.

"EXPOSED to listening to today", you mean ...

Aah .... Expedit does sound familiar.

Thanks, Daniel. Is this a recent addition to their range? I cannot recall that name. I've bought a lot of shelving and storage furniture from IKEA through the years (their ubiquitous BILLY serves my needs well for my 78rpm and 10" racks). But in recent years my visits to IKEA have been very rare.

So that's him too introducing the Swedish group (that made such a hit there) at the 1949 festival (as released on Dragon)? (Those Swedish names were a handful to handle for the announcer, it seems... ) Listening to both live recordings in a row provides an even better impression of the entire concert. (Edit: Listening to the recordings now. I am not sure if it is Francais or Maurice Cullaz - see below - who introduced the group. There is a second speaker who does an "outro" at the end of "All The Things You Are" but who is who of the two?) Quote from the liner notes: "Such was the curiosity and eagerness with which this concert was attended that the (unknown) announcer in charge got carried away by the general excitement and grew so lyrical he had to be interrupted by another one who stuck more closely to the facts." That "other one" was Maurice Cullaz so Francis must have been the lyrical one? Poor Barney ... not entitled to having his first name mentioned ... Puzzling at first but apparently a sign of the times. For some reason it was not unknown in France at that time not to mention the first name of a musician when stating line-ups/band personnel. Something that you often notice when reading early post-war issues of Jazz Hot but this does read decidedly odd today. As if this was influenced by football (soccer) match coverages? And reserved for the "lesser lights" (sidemen) in a group line-up?

Which IKEA line exactly are you referring to?

Not possible. VAT is 21% in Spain, which would amount to 9.21 if you add VAT to 7.74. When I open the link above it comes on in English, of course. Yet it says 10.00 EUR.

I'd certainly consider her a bit more than that for her "jazzing the classics" but apart from those who'd see only gimmickry in this (I wouldn't ... different strokes ... ) I can very well imagine this was anathema to "third stream" adulators of the day (some of whom would probably have found her treatment almost blasphemous - I wonder if she would also have had Grieg's heirs breathe down her neck if she had done an Anitra's Dance Boogie like Charlie Norman did around the time she had her McCarthy hearings ... )

Consider me puzzled ... very puzzled ....

Yes, and coming to think of it I find this rather dubious. Are they taking their EU customers for a ride?

Amazing. I just checked again and it clearly says 10 euros apiece. Also see the post by EKE BBB from earlier today. I am beginning to wonder if overseas users of their website get a "different" version displayed giving even lower prices to make it worthwhile for THEM (because free shipping won't come until at higher purchase sums?). Is this ethical and will this do them much of a favor once it transpires, I wonder?

I wasn't quite aware Hazel Scott was THAT outspoken in civil rights matters and had more guts than many "name" jazz artists taken together, so hats off to her. Now if it takes Alicia Keys to "get her name out in the open" again bring her some posthumous recognition then that's not the worst thing to happen. @TTK: I seee what you mean and largely agree. If some listeners prefer stuff that's more complex or on a different level, why not ... tastes do differ and not everything can appeal to everyone in the same manner. What I do find a bit of a pity, however, is the tendency of some scribes (particularly those who "came after the fact") to be either unable or just unwilling to cover those adequately who were fairly "accessible" to the audience and dismiss them as "artistically" insufficient instead when they just provided entertainment instead of "challenging" their listeners (which at the time often translated as "alienating"). As if jazz had ever consisted of "high art" only. It was a much wider field and there was room for a lot of different strains of jazz, and competent historians ought to be willing to take in the whole picture and refrain from rewriting history from an ivory-tower perspective that sometimes reads like some "how we would have liked history to turn out", unfortunately. And if some historians feel that this demand would relegate them to too much of a "documentarian" role, then so be it. This is not what was meant.

I am not sure we looked at the same site. The site that opens under the link in the starting post shows a lot that are newer than 50 years. Which, besides, is of no relevance here as these are previously unreleased concert recordings where the 50-year rule is not applicable as there is NO 50-year old original release anyway. And the label is a totally official one. BTW, the sale price they show reads more like 10 EUR to me. Not 7.74.

Done. Quite a while ago: I had been aware of her through her presence on a couple of compilations and had owned the 10" of Swingin The Classics for a long time but when I bought a fairly huge collection of 78s in 2005 these 4 Scott albums for some reason were included among the handful of 78 rpm albums. As if the previous owner had had a particular preference for her. A nice addition ... I remember what I read about her in various publications seemed to treat her a bit lightly (including by historians), claiming her to be rather commercial, cocktail-ish, flashy etc. Not that she could be rated the female Art Tatum but I find that a bit unfair and maybe another case of a hindsight-ish perspective ignoring her importance and appeal at the time and, above all, in the context of her times. I'd certainly file her with Hadda Brooks, Camille Howard, Mabel Scott and the like.

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Found it online. http://www.voicesofeastanglia.com/2012/10/barack-obamas-jazz-blue-note-inspired-designs.html