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What did you hear him on BM?

Actually I would add that bore size for lead players is frequently even smaller-.492 is often used and .500 is even more common (the King 3B is actually .508). There is a trend to play larger bore horns (Steve Turre, Robin Eubanks, Slide Hampton). The bore of these horns is in the .547 range, which is a considered a "large-bore" tenor trombone and is usually favored by orchestral players. There are still many jazz players who play the smaller .500 range horns, however (my personal preference ). There are advantages to playing the smaller bore- it is for the most part more facile (making it easier to get around and play faster and more angular lines) since its optimum range is in the area of the overtone series where the partials are closer to one another. The larger bore tends to have a bigger (i.e. darker, rounder) sound and can access the lower register more readily. These are generalizations and there are always exceptions- I wouldn't say that a smaller bore horn automatically affords the player a higher range (this is after hearing Slide tear it up on a BIG axe!). I do think if you "hear" a dark sound, you will get a dark sound regardless of equipment. I performed at a trombone convention in 1982 or so and one of the guests was Jimmy Cleveland (Wayne Andre was another). I volunteered to take Jimmy to dinner and had a great conversation- at that time he hadn't been playing a lot and was not quite up to his usual spectacular level, but he sounded great and it was a thrill to meet him. I don't remember what horn he was playing at that time. Jimmy's playing really knocked me out from the first time I heard him. I'm glad to see some renewed interest. I want to read your dissertation when it's all done, VE! I would be interested to hear what *slide_advantage* might add to this discussion.

yes, but please note that the drawing is not to scale You sure about that? B-)

I'm just glad we now have a picture to associate with the posts. Puts everything in perspective.

Vera-Ellen was her name I believe. No doubt doomed to be known throughout the annals of film history as "the other one".

So they do the whole 68 minute version each concert? That's interesting- I wonder how much variation each performance has. There would have to be some otherwise it would become boring for the players. Too much variation and it won't connect w/the audience. You can't really treat it like a regular-type tune.

How do they do this one live? It is an "excerpted" version?

In the spirit of this thread I've decided to give my trombone to whomever wants it. What? No one's interested? It'd make a great lamp. Yard art?

This would be a good time for a thread killer to use their skills. Or perhaps I should say THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR A THREAD KILLER TO USE THEIR SKILLS. Or better yet..... THHIS WUOLD BEAGOO DTIME FOUR UH TRED KLLIER TOO US THEY'RE SKLIS.

Sounds interesting. I'll check it out when I can find for a little less $$ than THIS. Plus it seems to have been on backorder for over two years. What's up w/that?

One thing I've been wondering, and forgive me if this has been discussed, but if the rusty box issue is a problem, wouldn't it be possible to somehow seal the metal with something? Obviously you'd have to remove the existing rust first, but isn't there some horribly caustic sealant-type product that would halt the process? What an idiotic idea for packaging such important music. I really don't want to get tetanus from my CDs.

.....and whiskers on kittens.....

......and whiskers on kittens......

You have to understand a couple things: -this place has been described as a "corner bar" (or pub) and as such the language often tends to get a little salty. Please take that saltiness with an additional "grain of salt". Most of the time members use minimal profanity, but sometimes there's no better way to express yourself than unleashing a fussilade of nastiness. Please don't take it personally. -the exchange you're referring to in this case is meant in a playful way, much like two brothers who express their love by beating the crap out of each other. Dysfunctional? Perhaps. Overtly hostile? Definitely not. ...and oh yes, threads get derailed constantly around here. Be patient.

Does Ron Bierma still work there or was that ages ago? I don't know if he ever worked at the Wabash location.

Solstice (Ralph Towner) Luminessence Nude Ants I like these among others. I enjoy his playing but can't listen to it for an extended period of time; his sound sometimes grates on my nerves a bit. But I still like him in smallish doses. I have a friend who refers to him as "John Garbagetruck".

I would recommend Concert in the Virgin Islands. Some interesting new pieces on that one. I personally have a soft spot for the Mary Poppins. It seems to work against all odds.

Then came Zora.

Young and Foolish B-)

WTF? #3 It took a long time because his place had giant steps. OK, I'll stop now.

WTF? #2 "Sheets of snow"

This is really a great thread!

WTF? Hope he was wearing his gloves supreme. B-)

Say it ain't so! I hope it's not a case of "Ray's Syndrome"!! Pardon the bad pun.