Dan Gould

I have a very bad copy of the record with lots of pops. I don't even have the album cover. I found it at http://www.djangomusic.com If its important to you, PM me, and I can xerox the front and back for you.

Available in what sense? Burns for trade? Are you only looking for vinyl? A lot of the later BNs you list show up on ebay regularly. Do you actually own Ronnie Foster's Live at Montreux? That is an lp that eluded our own BN fanatic, Bill Fenohr, until I found it on Ebay's German site.

Marcus, Are you hoping people may buy these for you here for repayment? Or are you hoping to trade with someone who already has these? Its possible I could land a couple of these ....

You misunderstand-Danbury is not a country club, but its close to NYC and Westport, and it happens to be where Helmsley served her time, so I put two and two together and flippantly added the "Lovely Helmsley Suite".

I am sure she will spend her five months in the lovely Leona Helmsley Suite of the Danbury Federal Correctional Facility.

"Never mind!"

Sonny Clark: Trio (Time) Trio (BN) Sonny's Crib My Perception Leapin and Lopin' Dial 'S' for Sonny Standards Cool Struttin' Kenny Clarke: Bohemia After Dark Seleno Clarke: Live at Smoke (pretty nice CDR available from Cadence, got some good young guys like Eric Alexander and Jim Rotondi) James Clay and Marchel Ivery: Texas Tenors (rare 80s recording, found this on ebay. Of course, since no one knows what it is, I had no competition for it More James Clay to look forward to on Monday, then a bunch of Buck Clayton. Other than it being Monday, the 19th looks pretty good

If it was auspicious to you, that's good enough for me (or at least good enough for this thread)!

I was just listening to Kenny Clarke's Bohemia After Dark and since this is Cannonball's knockout recording debut, what are some other knock-out first performances? To keep it narrow, lets make it recording debut as opposed to leader debut.

I'm sure someone with a BN discography will be along shortly to help.

I think we need more info in order to have any idea. What was the original label, date, etc.?

Or certainly a Moody Select!

BETTY Carter with the Messengers? And on what do you base your ironclad assertion? Is there a handbill in the Fitzgerald archives?

the best way would be to let us all listen to what the announcer has to say. And while you're at it, you might as well throw the entire show out way I'm sorry, what did you say? I can't hear you over this primo private recording of the Monk Quartet. Did you know that Coltrane joined them at Birdland on February 22nd, 1963?

Looking at it again, I guess the Porter book is saying that the Coltrane Quartet was in Birdland, February 23rd for a radio broadcast, which makes sense since the announcer says Monk will be there for another week, meaning he would have cleared out by then, and the 23rd makes sense because it was a Friday and that's when they broadcast from Birdland. I don't think the February 19th date is correct though, because I'd think that if the Coltrane Quartet was starting an engagement then, the announcer would have made note of it, instead of saying that Monk will be there for another week, with Coltrane joining him the next Thursday. Porter doesn't really clear it up ...

Porter's book, p369: Well there's the answer, except that, if a Thursday as the DJ said, it would have been the 22nd of February. Then again, the radio broadcasts were Friday night, so if a radio broadcast exists, maybe it was Friday. Too bad there's no indication of whether Benny Carter actually joined the band, too. Thanks, RC.

might actually be we will feature John Coltrane and the quartet , and that they're referring to a multi-artist lineup - Monk's band, Tran'es band, and some kind of Benny Carter group all appearing over the course of a night. Birfland often had multiple bands booked like that. I've seen photos of the signs out front, and the lineups amount to what today would pass for a jazz festival! Well, the explanation may be plausible, but I listened to the announcement over and over again, and he clearly says, "in the Quartet" and note also I know they were running double features here-the second show on this night in particular was the Cannonball Sextet. So, to me this says that the second show is the Messengers, and "Again with Benny Carter" says that Benny Carter is also sitting in with the Messengers. The best way to put this to rest would be to document where Trane was in the third week of February, 1963.

OK, I guess Coltrane did gig with Monk after he'd become a successful leader. I always thought that he just had the gig at the Five Spot and that was it (or mostly it), certainly not that he was gigging with him five years later. But I'd kill to have heard Monk with Coltrane and Benny Carter! Or Benny with the Messengers!

OK, so I'm listening to a reel to reel tape of the Monk Quartet at Birdland, February 16 1963 (don't ask, I'm not at liberty to discuss), its a radio broadcast and the DJ starts talking about the upcoming shows. And this is what he says (I transcribed it so I'd be sure): Now, my understanding was that Coltrane only gigged with Monk in, what, '58, right? Is it common knowledge that Coltrane got back with Monk, on at least one occassion? And how about that front line? Coltrane and Benny Carter with the Monk Quartet?! Granted, its not real clear, exactly what he means, but I think the Messengers are actually the second act of the evening (and Carter is sitting in with them, too???!!!) To put an exact date on this, the radio broadcast was a Friday night, so the following Thursday was February 22nd, 1963. Maybe Mike Fitzgerald can shed light on this.

Ray Charles: Ain't That Fine (Drive Archive, its his very first recording session) Teddy Charles: Three for Duke (Jubilee) Jeannie and Jimmy Cheatham and the Baby Blues Band Blues and the Boogie Masters Basket Full of Blues Luv in the Afternoon Homeward Bound Midnight Mama Gud Nuz Bluz (Got most of these at that Barnes and Noble Concord Jazz sale. Fun music, but geez, 6 in a row of this band was much harder sledding than the days and days of Blakey!) Don Cherry: Art Deco Cyrus Chestnut: Soul Food Nut Earth Stories Revelation Looks like a Sonny Clark Friday. I can think of worse things ... like actually working while I listen

Maybe we should have a follow-up question: How many time do you visit the facilities each day? I'd answer that but I'm running out the door right now to answer nature's call.

Regardless of the ultimate outcome, I don't think anyone would not count the '88 Sox as an example of a team that switched managers in the middle of the season and had an extraordinary result after. The team won 19 of 20-did the Yankees do that with Bob Lemon? Don't think so. They just got healthy and the Red Sox started slumping, and they had the rest of the season to catch up. The Sox went on an incredible tear and took over first place and didn't relinquish it the rest of the way.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. *********** Couw, yes, Joe Chambers, what the heck was I thinking??? Guess I better correct that.

I drink quite a bit of regular coffee in the morning, but none thereafter, and its almost always decaffinated sodas in the house, so unless I'm out drinking caffenated Diet Coke, I'd say the caffeine intake ceases by about 9 AM for me.

Terri Lynn Carrington: And Friends (thanks again, Barak! The girl is like 17, 18 years old and plays her butt off) Serge Chaloff Blue Serge Joe Castro: Lush Life (on some obscure LA label, I paired it up with the equally obscure Don Goldie Verve LP, Trumpet Exodus) Jazz Funk Soul Joe Chambers: Mirrors Paul Chambers: 1st Bassman Go Quintet Chamber's Music Whims of Chambers Eddie Chamblee Blowing in Paris Doodlin' Ray Charles Best of (the Atlantic Years) Blues + Jazz Genius + Soul=Jazz/My Kind of Jazz Two disc live private recording, from Italy in the early 90s, the last 25 minutes is Ray with BB King and the Gene Harris Super Band. Too bad Gene only solos on one tune) Soul Brothers/Soul Meeting - the two disc Atlantic reissue of his collaborations with Milt Jackson Edited for silly spelling error.