Dan Gould

Hey DEEP (In the Drunk Tank) Why don't you get the hell out of this thread and go visit some of the other, far more stimulating conversations taking place on this board? Here's a clue as to why you might want to consider that: 1. Hanging here and only here shows you to be a desperate-for-attention buffoon. 2. A watched pot never boils, and a watched thread never gets the response you are so desperate to see.

Actually, Brownie, that was an "inside joke" for (mostly) Americans who remember the TV show, "Married with Children." One of the characters was a dumb blonde type (I mean REALLY dumb) and she used to say "Viola!" when she meant "Voila!" Good looking woman-I'm surprised she hasn't made an appearance in the Babe thread. If I had some time .... As for the Grant Green, I hope the sound is good and that most of the LP is Grant and Kenny, and not one of those single track deals. Still it'd make a good Blindfold test, if they do play together!

DEEP (In the Drunk Tank): The law is serious business. As Moussaui and John Muhammad are learning in Virginia, it pays to set your ego aside and let it be handled by professionals. Or, as Judge Judy might have said, "Don't piss on my bench and tell me its raining!"

Deep, Allow me to interject with what I see as the problem with your "olive branch". You should not, in my opinion, be withdrawing your silly claim that Chris violated the rules and ought to be punished. This has nothing to do with what (rightfully) upset him so. You know what upset him: Your silly "urinal dream" followed by your even more foolish adulteration of his name, either to intentionally hurt him or for a stupid laugh. Either way, it has driven him away and if you are serious in trying to mend the breach in a public way, then at least acknowledge the true cause of the breach. Otherwise, you're just pissing on the Bench, and no Judge likes that.

God, how I love Google! Put "I Giganti Del Jazz Volume 55" in, and VIOLA-a place in the UK had it and as soon as i figure out how to pay them, it will be winging its way to me!!! It was a little more than the $1 or $2 these ought to cost, but nothing outrageous. Including airmail, under $15. Hope the Grant is worth it! And thanks, Brownie for mentioning it!

I undersand SgudMissile's points and totally agree with them ... IF the recording in question is an official release with full copyright protection. And if there are people at a live date who record the show in order to put out a bootleg recording, they are also breaking the law. But I part company when it comes to trading live recordings that have never been issued commercially and are not being traded for cash. This incurs no cost whatsoever on the performer, whether he is alive or dead. There's no sale involved, and there's no commercial release. Therefore, there is no copyright to violate. *************** I see people saying that this software is easy to deal with-but what about people with high speed connections and firewalls? Do I want to leave my firewall open so long to download a 500 meg concert? What are the risks involved?

Well, what happened is that I had the CD and sent a scan to Greg, who hosted it on his website and subsequently lost the image. The good news is, I now have a scanner myself and could either post it on a new thread later tonite or else e-mail copies to people. It was an interesting discussion-in addition to looking much older than he did at the end of his Blue Note career, I felt there was something very empty and hurt in Hank's eyes. Others said it looked like he was reading sheet music slightly off camera-and yet, the tune on the Cd is Autumn Leaves-he needed sheet music for that? But, as Chuck says, he recorded other tunes on the date but Autumn Leaves was regarded as releasable when the CD came out. Anyway, I'll do something tonite, and post, maybe with a warning not to open if you don't wish to see "the picture".

Last I knew, he made his home base here in Fort Lauderdale, but I don't know for sure that is still the case.

I wouldn't be so sure about what is and isn't "unavailable". One of the Blakey downloads I am almost sure is from a European CD I have, maybe a Fontana, I'm not entirely sure. Looking through the FAQs I see that this is peer-to-peer distribution, so I suspect that our firewall is going to be a problem there anyway. But if these are truly live recordings, I frankly see this as a technological advance in the ageless "tape trading" community, just swapping files instead of tapes or CDRs. To the extent that these are live recordings and not bootlegs of copyrighted works, I've never seen why this is a terrible thing. If the material doesn't benefit Horace Silver or Miles Davis to begin with, what is the harm of trading (or downloading)? So, I don't think I'll sign up for this, though I have to admit I have half a mind to post an "In Search of Gene Harris" thread!

Hey GoM (and all you other Yankee fans), here's a column from ESPN.com with scary implications for the future: Tuesday, December 2, 2003 THE OLD BOSS IS BACK By Buster Olney ESPN The Magazine The Yankees are George Steinbrenner's team, more than at any time since 1990. The Boss negotiated Gary Sheffield's contract personally last week, meeting the slugger in Tampa, Fla. and allowing him to choose from three proposals. And in the last year, Steinbrenner was the driving force behind the deals for third baseman Aaron Boone and pitchers Chris Hammond and Jose Contreras. He wanted outfielder Raul Mondesi in 2002, and he got him. George Steinbrenner is pulling nearly all the strings this offseason for the Yankees. There was a time when Steinbrenner deferred to his underlings. Gene Michael, the Yankees' general manager for five seasons, and Brian Cashman, who took over as GM in 1998, fought to keep Steinbrenner tethered to a measured course of management. They wanted to develop good and cheap, young talent, they looked for players who fit New York, and they stood their ground. Steinbrenner usually backed off. Because of that, Bernie Williams was not traded in 1994, Andy Pettitte in 1999 and Alfonso Soriano in 2000. Steinbrenner occasionally stepped in and pushed through a smaller move, such as the signing of Dwight Gooden in 2000. But by and large, the professionals rebuilt and refined the team, the Yankees won four championships in five seasons from 1996-2000 and began making the playoffs every year, after failing to advance to the postseason for 14 years. After losing the 1981 World Series, they had stayed home in October until 1995. But the Yankees lost the 2001 World Series to Arizona and Steinbrenner determined that his executives could not be trusted. He met David Wells for lunch and signed the left-handed pitcher to a two-year contract, a deal that worked out for the Yankees. Others have not. Slowly, Steinbrenner's vision for a championship team has begun taking shape. Sheffield will get a three-year deal and it's possible that within that time frame, he will be one of four excellent candidates to be the Yankees' designated hitter. He's 35 years old, adequate defensively. First baseman Jason Giambi is almost 32 and moves like somebody 10 years older: he has a damaged knee mostly unaided by recent surgery, and is so immobile that he couldn't start Game 5 of the World Series. There is talk that Williams, also 35, might have to move out of center field because of shoulder and knee trouble; he could shift to DH if the Yankees sign Kenny Lofton. But then, where would Giambi play if he can't play first base? Or catcher Jorge Posada, who might begin feeling the effects of a heavy workload in the next couple of seasons? Or Sheffield, if age or injury overcome him? Steinbrenner apparently was unconcerned about Sheffield's history of unhappiness and intermittent effort. Sheffield does have great stats, something that many of the championship Yankees did not have. The Yankees are paying about $10 million for third basemen next season, the combined salaries of Boone and Drew Henson, and Boone is a free-swinger who was almost completely overmatched in the postseason, save for one Tim Wakefield knuckler. Gary Sheffield will be the first big free-agent signing for the Yankees this offseason. The Yankees signed one right-handed set-up man -- 36-year-old Tom Gordon. They are also close to signing another righty reliever -- 35-year-old Paul Quantrill. That's because the army of middle relievers the Yankees have tried in the latest Steinbrenner era have either been hit with injury or been ineffective. If you project Contreras for the bullpen -- the role in which he served during the postseason, then the Yankees will have about $25 million in middle relief, or about $5 million less than the Brewers will pay their entire team. But Contreras is probably headed to the starting rotation, once the pride of the Yankees. There's Mike Mussina and probably Pettitte, once he reconsiders his flirtation with Houston, and maybe Contreras and maybe Jon Lieber and perhaps Jeff Weaver and even Wells (if he re-signs). There are question marks and Steinbrenner doesn't like question marks, and so the Yankees owner may throw another $40 million at talented Bartolo Colon, whose weight problem remains a question. Steinbrenner might negotiate that deal himself, as well. They need a young, cheap starter. Too bad that Brandon Claussen, left-handed and a hard-thrower and graced with a maturity that greatly impressed the Yankees' coaching staff, went to Cincinnati for Boone. It all seems familiar. From 1976-1981 -- a period of six years -- the Yankees had dominant pitching, with Sparky Lyle and Ron Guidry and Goose Gossage and Catfish Hunter, won two World Series and played in two others and made the playoffs every year but one. Steinbrenner asserted even greater control, lured free agents, stripped the farm system. By 1983 the Yankees had a lineup of Roy Smalleys and Steve Kemps, aging hitters who had seen their best years, and by 1986 the Yankees' leading starter was Dennis Rasmussen, an 18-game winner; no other pitcher won 10 games. Steinbrenner was running the show, and the Yankees' victory total declined. Ninety wins in 1986, then 89 victories, 85, 74, and 67. That's when Steinbrenner was suspended, and Michael became general manager. But Steinbrenner's in charge now. More than ever. ************************************* It's just like you said, Ghost.

You're so pathetic, Johnny. What bothers you so much, that a handful of people are taking advantage of the software to avoid seeing your retching all over the Political section? Try to remember, there has always been great debate about the appropriateness of a Political forum on a JAZZ board. There are quite a few people who felt strongly that there ought not to be one. This allows them to pretend that there isn't.

You're sure that's not Cheap Ho Lay? B)

Well ... I was thankful you were offline.

And Johnny, I should let you know that if it says "0%" its a warning that you are being too nice to Republicans and need to start piling abuse on them in the most profane way possible. And I mean really profane.

Proof that you never venture outside of your Political Playpen. Why don't you go HERE and spend an hour or two seeing what's gone down lately.

Considering that at that point America was an oldies act, I'm not terribly surprised. I've never won anything but certainly gave away a lot when I worked in radio. The worst was probably at the last station I worked for, Mello 105. The owner decided to try to promote the station through a series of games for the Morning, Mid-day and Afternoon Drive shows in which the "jackpot" would grow with each wrong answer. The problem was, the owner was such a tightwad he made the base amount all of ten dollars and fifty cents-Mello 105, get it? So, the poor jocks had to sound excited when we were giving away enough to take yourself to the movies with! You can't imagine how many people never bothered to come by the station to pick up their stinking $10.50 check. We did try to run a series of contests that would be extra hard, to try to build up the jackpot, but even then the biggest jackpot was still less than $100. So, there we were trying to promote the station, $10.50 at a time, while other stations were running contests for new cars, thousand dollar vacations and everything else you can imagine. Just pathetic.

Gotta go looking for that Grant/Kenny/Billy Taylor side! Those Italian pressings (not these live ones, the other series) did include a great Sweets/Ben Webster Verve that wasn't out on CD until Verve did a two-fer a while back. It was the one wit "Blues for Piney Brown" among a string of "Blues for" tunes. I remember I got it for $2 very early on in my jazz collecting-I'd just heard the Columbia Ben and Sweets and was thrilled to find another one of those two together!

There was a Dex organist to begin with? What am I missing?

Good call, Ubu, I remember when I was stunned to stumble across that one. At the time, I think Dex and Ben were my favorites, so you can imagine how thrilled I was to find something with the two of them together!

Did you both include the gaps between tracks? And base 60 always throws me off ...

Ubu, don't forget One Flight Up. Love that Drew contribution to the date, "Coppin' The Haven"!

Well, they are surely great albums, but for me, Dex and Kenny Drew played so often, they really knew each other so well and the results were sublime. Hopefully the Dex contingent will agree (hey, maybe this will get Ed Swinnich out of lurk mode!).

I tried to stick with guys who made at least a couple of records with Dex. I always put Kenny Drew at the top, and I may get flamed but Cables is always at the bottom-not my kind of guy, sorry.

I would think that we've got more than a little hope; it seems as though Reece's BNs are perfect for the Select concept-too few for a full scale box but too obscure for a regular box set or really many regular reissues.

Great post, Peter, I can only wish that I might see Sweet Lou and the good Doctor someday. Now do you understand why I suggested "Whiskey Drinkin' Woman" for the Organissimo CD project?