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Blind Connie Williams – Philadelphia Street Singer (Traditional Blues, Spirituals And Folksongs)

Classic. "Well, I'm going to pay you a tenner".

AMM – The Crypt - 12th June 1968

You can taste test on Bandcamp, if that swings it. I quite enjoyed it. I love the source material and have for years. I thought the more piano, the stronger it is. Some of Moran's performances are really special. The sections with a larger band are a mix. Some parts are very strong and lusty, others feel a little more academic.

Now, but this is the really real stuff. This is great! Graeme Bell is known to me as a name but not the others. Where would you start with each of these artists, record-wise?

Fantastic! Thank you.

Particularly weird given that the same movement had at some points close links to civil rights groups. Clearly that was part of the appeal though, for whatever reason. Along with the stripey blazers. Hodes and Hyman I know fairly well, but what record or records would you start with for the others? It's just interesting how much of this stuff there was, and how important it was (in the sense of sales as well as the number of listeners, critics and players invested in it, and just how much of "Jazz" it represented in cultural terms). It has now just gone. It is not just that interest has waned (as with swing and many other non-jazz genres), but it has been almost completely forgotten and then dropped from histories, where it appears only as a competing movement to bebop. Strange to think about. Almost as strange as the idea that classic jazz revival could once have been a chart topping trend.

I thought that there was a big swell of interest. Certainly the spread of fans in the 60s and 70s looks pretty wide - wider than if it was just drawn from 1950s band kids - from the Muppets writers, to Robert Crumb, to half of Disney, to Woody Allen. I second the view of being completely bewildered by how such a large number of college students could become so absorbed in traditional jazz. It seems such a random choice. Also, why were they so drawn to the look? The blues and folk revival types dressed like other music fans. Why did the jazz revival guys love the hats so much? It's not a mystery that listening to this music is getting closer to resolving, either.

Bob Scobey's Frisco Jazz Band With Clancy Hayes – Swingin' On The Golden Gate (RCA, 1957) Still continuing a recent push to learn a little bit about revivalist traditional jazz. Still finding that for every record that I really enjoy there are two records that make me re-evaluate my life choices. Still, these Bob Wilbur records aren't going to listen to themselves. Edit: I should add that it is really hard to find out about this music. There's no recommended lists out there on the internet, and noone is on Instagram posting LP covers for clout. To the extent that it does exist in jazz histories, it seems to be as a brief reference as an historical antagonist to bebop. You'd never know that for decades it was so popular. Possibly that reflects the fact that 90% of the genre is arid revivalism that no sensible human would want to know about, but still.

It seems to be back in print again. Lots of copies available in London, having been difficult to find for a while.

Sad to think that might have been his last gig.

Agreed on this one. Swirling was a real surprise. This feels like leftovers.

I was surprised to find that this was a 60s one. The cover has such a perfect 80s look to it.

Sounds like bad news from Mr. Brotzmann. Sending him thoughts and wishes for as full a recovery as possible.

Dutch Swing College Band – Dutch Swing College On Tour (Philips, 1960) I enjoyed this one.

The Dirty Dozen Brass Band – Live: Mardi Gras In Montreux (Rounder, 1986)

Thanks both. Some good looking records to explore! Any recommendations falling within this category would also be much appreciated.

I am really enjoying Jazz Concert at Eddie Condon's at the moment. I would really appreciate any recommendations for where to go next (ideally, specific Laps or EPs or volumes, rather than box sets).

Thinking about it, do we even have a thread on the forum relating to the classic jazz revival in any of its forms? It is a subject that interests me from an historical perspective. Seems bizarre that we would not, but I have tried looking.

That's the one! On bandcamp.

Jason Moran - From the Dancehall to the Battlefield

Playfield - Volume 3 (2021, Orbit 577)

What are they?

Turk Murphy's Jazz Band – Turk Murphy's San Francisco Jazz Vol. 1 Dipping my toe into various forms of classic jazz revival at the moment. More for self-education than anything. I find Turk Murphy quite difficult to handle, in contrast to Eddie Condon or the New Orleans old timers. This stuff seems quite slick, hermetically sealed and tonally unlike the Hot 5s/7s or the Bix gang (who I assume they're emulating). Maybe its more influence from Jellyroll or just an excess in proficiency. Perhaps others have more insight.

I hadn't realised that France had suffered so severely in the jazz wars. I think that I had naively assumed that the French jazz fan public quickly embraced bop.