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Doubt it. LPs are collectible independently of their CD-reissue status. Ra's got serious stock, as do Tina Brooks, Hank Mobley, Mike Westbrook and everybody else...

You know, Lion did approach Spaulding to do one, but apparently they wanted something a little more boogaloo-oriented, which wasn't so much what Spaulding wanted to do for his own date. Food for thought.

In my days of racing, I didn't listen to anything before a TT. But that was pre-iPod. So, if I get back into it, these might be good suggestions...

Yeah, that's ridiculously good sound. Also The Cry.

That was a blockbuster of a post...

Frank Wright.

Maybe... I really couldn't say. Might be interesting to get a picture of how the AACM's goals, etc. changed as many of its participants relocated to New York. There will ALWAYS be screamers, won't there?

And your excellent publications. Happy Birthday!

Jesus...

I look forward to hearing exactly who "Chewy's Pal" is...

I was actually wondering myself whether it had anything to do with such a scenario, but didn't have the discographical chops to back it up.

I never cared much for her, either, or her art-star beau, Matthew Barney. But hey, what do I know about music, art, or even West Coast Jazz?!?!

I was trying to stick mostly to early '70s stuff. That's really where the quote was coming from, as I understand it. The Caligs are amazing. I second that recommendation!

Spending a lot of time with Grow Fins lately. I always "liked" his music, though whether I fully appreciated it... I don't know. Now, I feel closer to "getting" it and have really enjoyed the last few spins of that boxed set.

You'll have to let us know how those Bass Communion records are.

Is European jazz West Coast or East Coast?

Huh - same here!

That's what I've got most of these on... Have Jubilee pressings of the others.

Evidently, yup. You need Message to our Ancestors. That be the Big Black/Black Harold LP.

Rather irritated that I can't have both a hat and a beard...

If somebody can find me tapes of the McLaughlin/Van Hove/Bennink/Bennink group of ca. 1968, I'd be much obliged...

Regardless of the Cuscuna quote, the '70s were a really fertile time for the music. Some of us who were there could probably tell some stories - and I'm not just talking the loft jazz scene, etc., but also considering the Europeans and the expats. From a historical perspective, it was a crucial period for this music.

Two of the better sides Muse put out, imo.

Isn't that supposed to be the reason for the T-rim? Suppose Capitol were really into their rimjobs, no?

For the recommendations of things pertinent to this thread, here's a start: Chicagoans: Roscoe Mitchell: LRG/The Maze/SII Examples (Nessa) Roscoe Mitchell: Nonaah (Nessa) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: The Paris Sessions (Pathe) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: A Jackson in Your House/Message to Our Folks (Charly/Actuel) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: Certain Blacks (America) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: 1967-1968 (Nessa), for historical context Muhal Richard Abrams: Young At Heart/Wise in Time (Delmark) Muhal Richard Abrams: LifeA BlineC (Novus) Wadada Leo Smith: The Kabell Years (Tzadik) Marion Brown/Leo Smith: Creative Improvisation Ensemble (Freedom) Anthony Braxton: For Alto (Delmark) Anthony Braxton: New York, Fall 1974 (Arista) Anthony Braxton: Creative Orchestra Music 1976 (Arista) Anthony Braxton: Creative Contstruction Company 1 & 2 (Muse) St. Louis: Julius Hemphill: Dogon A.D. (Mbari) Black Artists' Group: In Paris, Aires 1973 (BAG) Ofamfa: Children of the Sun (Universal Justice) Post-AACM integrationists: Revolutionary Ensemble: Vietnam 1 & 2 (ESP-Disk') Revolutionary Ensemble: The Psyche (Re: Records/Mutable) Sirone: Artistry (Of the Cosmos) Michael Gregory Jackson: Clarity (Bija) incl. L. Smith, O. Lake and D. Murray Barry Altschul: You Can't Name Your Own Tune (Muse) NY Loft Jazz: Frank Lowe: The Flam (Black Saint) w/ L. Smith, J. Bowie, C. Shaw Rashied Ali/Frank Lowe: Duo Exchange (Survival) Rashied Ali: Quintet (Survival), w/ Blood Ulmer, Earl Cross, etc. Noah Howard: Live at the Village Vanguard 1972 (Freedom) Charles Tyler: Voyage From Jericho (Ak-Ba/Bleu Regard) Charles Tyler: Saga of the Outlaws (Nessa) Clifford Thornton: The Gardens of Harlem (JCOA) I skimp a little on St. Louis, as I've not followed the BAG scene as closely as some others here have. There's a lot of Braxton from the '80s on that I haven't heard, but most of the work from the '60s thru the '70s is pertinent to this discussion, and I included a bit of that here. I err on the side of early AEC, for it is my preference. The earlier Delmark AACM titles I mostly left out, as that may be more of a precedent than anything else. There should be more stuff in the recommendations thread.