clifford_thornton

Wait a minute. Are you saying that they used the same tracks on both albums or that they recorded different versions of two of the songs??? "Ole Negro" (Black Ark) = "Viva La Black" (Space Dimension) "Mount Fuji" (Black Ark) = "Oriental Mood" (Uhuru) I'll have to listen to the closing ballad on Black Ark again for comparison, but I believe you. The name escapes me at the moment... so that's three out of four tracks from the Freedom that duplicate tracks on the Americas. Interesting.

Good point. I've never even seen Motivation offered (think it's from '72?) - it hurts my feelings, for sure! The Valdo is "difficult," but I'm not sure it's "unsuccessful." The fact that he was playing that way, or in a comparable vein, in the '40s and '50s lends credence to the idea that he was/is an original. Sort of like a Hasaan/early Cecil hybrid, if you ask me. Zwerin's also in fine form on Shepp's Magic of JuJu, from around the same time. The Pozar is a very good record; understated, but a sleeper hit with me. His drumming is wonderful overall, though the shit he throws down on the Dixon RCA is fucking retarded... The Levin is one of the best underground NY LPs of the period. Period. C

Right-o. I'm 29 and on my second round of grad school. I think that whatever it is that I am into, and whoever it is that I think I am, will be more nuanced and solidified as I hit my 40s (hence, I look forward to that decade - specifically around 45). That's all that one can hope for, really, and that's good enough for me.

Lots of wonderful records there. The Dixon productions are limited to the Pozar, the Levin, the Curran and the Watts, aside from his own dates. The story is that Savoy wanted him to do more records, but due to some embouchre problems and the dissolution of his group with Shepp, he decided to use "his" dates to produce some of his students. Good move. Excellent records. I have all of the Dixon-related but the Watts, though I have heard that one and can speak for its strength and beauty. The Valdo is sick, the Moffett is peerless, the Scianni is decent (though pressed poorly), and the Barron (as with all his dates) has some great jams. Haven't heard the Brokensha, Vince Hill or the Doug Carn, though the latter has (maybe mistakenly) intrigued me. The Jeffrey is more of a greasy date than his work on the Moffett, as I understand it. The Bley is nice, though I wish Savoy had issued the quartet with Gilmore - though part of it was eventually on Turning Point.

I dunno, 'round here the sludge doesn't flow too freely, sad to say...

Yeah, the joke would be funny except that I don't find this funny at all. Sad is what it is. And I have been around a number of models (and non-models) enough to know the pressures (my old girlfriend was a fashion designer). It's a fucked-up world.

Ditto for me too. Just couldn't get into/hold onto the Soul Notes, Contact (think that was the label - a Swedish concert from '70 or so) and Dutchman dates.

Husker Du - "Eight Miles High" b/w "Masochism World" (SST original single) Jeeezus...

AMAZING LP, that Illumination! ... this should be an AOTW, if it hasn't already.

Where's Chuck with one of his "size" jokes?

Well, since the ultimate point of the thread is to impress everyone with the vastness of your collection, I won! It is a slightly sarcastic comment on the nature of a thread like this. I got it. I'll take my two Heavy Soul Music (label) LPs over any of my BNs any day, however.

Well, I suppose if you counted ALL the flatted fifths...

I'm guessing LPs vs. CDs.

I think I'm at about 125 last time I checked. Kenny Cox - Multidirection is the newest BN addition; I've lately begun to appreciate a lot of the upper 4200s and lower 4300s. For some reason, though it's certainly by no means his best recording, the J.R. Monterose gets under my skin a little bit. I also pull out Blues in Trinity quite often, also True Blue and of course tear into the Jackie McLeans a lot too. I need more Horace Parlan, that is for sure... Apologies, but I'm going to have to include Japanese and '70s pressings, as they fill out the catalog in a way that otherwise I couldn't participate. I do have a lot of NY originals, too, but I'm not as picky about BN pressings as I am about other labels.

I thought about sending one to Savoy once, just to see what would happen...

Runswick's electric bass playing on Rites & Rituals is off the hook. I don't have the Lowther (the Deram?) but intend to get it at some point. His upright graces a number of Ray Russell LPs...

Jeb Bishop/Nick Evans - for some reason I always want to say the latter when I mean the former. I mean, their playing IS similar... The Bards one time confused Kenny Clare and Kenny Clarke, I believe... I remember finding it oddly hilarious.

Toshiba must be up to the current BN levels of QC! Byrd Blows Deacon Hill?

The site looks great so far. Studied with Mangelsdorff, eh? I look forward to hearing your work!

Yeah, South or Central Texas too!

I saw him with Gerry Hemingway and it was like you say... though with Oxley, Lytton, Alan Jackson or any number of more appropriate folks, he's stunning. Daryl Runswick, though his discography is fairly scant, is another wonderful player.

Yup.

"Snowflakes and Sunshine" is cool, for sure. Maybe part of the reason is that Vol. 2 wasn't on CD for quite a while.