porcy62

Forget it, Jake. It's Clementine.

Nice . What's the pressing like on side 2? Sorry for the delay, I was in Turkey. Holiday Side 2 is good, as far I remember. Why are you asking it? Welcome back. I was asking re: the side 2 as every copy I've ever heard had less than great pressing quality on the last track. Not sure why this is. You're right: the sound of the last track is "congested", overall all side 2 is worst then side 1. I checked it on my Coltrane's Prestige cd set, even on the cd the tracks on side 1 of the vinyl are better then side 2, though they sounds better then my 50th pressing's side 2. Pretty bizzare. No clues in the box set's libretto. I was playing the OJC CD of that the other day - didn't notice a thing except the music. MG If you listen to carefully at "Super Jet" you should find a less defined sound, I would say "congested", the instruments are melted togheter. Try to compare this track with the others. In my vinyl and my cd I can hear a difference. If you don't, just drop the issue and think "Fuck those anally retentive audiophiles, this is a great record".

In order to relief my pain for the Dameron/Trane's infamous side 2, I'm going to spin Sonny's "Way Out West".

Nice . What's the pressing like on side 2? Sorry for the delay, I was in Turkey. Holiday Side 2 is good, as far I remember. Why are you asking it? Welcome back. I was asking re: the side 2 as every copy I've ever heard had less than great pressing quality on the last track. Not sure why this is. You're right: the sound of the last track is "congested", overall all side 2 is worst then side 1. I checked it on my Coltrane's Prestige cd set, even on the cd the tracks on side 1 of the vinyl are better then side 2, though they sounds better then my 50th pressing's side 2. Pretty bizzare. No clues in the box set's libretto.

BTW, thanks for posting it.

It doesn't beat my NM copy of Kerouac/Allen original Dot pressing

Wait a minute. Slow down here. You "used to blow her off"? As in, you used to dislike her? You used to hold her in disdain? (as you seem to do for everything else I like, and I'm a big Joni Mitchell fan, btw) Does this mean that (gasp) you changed your mind? Can such a thing be? Clem! I'm...I'm disillusioned! You used to be almost George W. Bush-like in your certainty. Your judgements were absolute. Beck? Hate 'im! U2? Crap! Beastie Boys? Suck! Kanye West? Practically U2! Bob Dylan's "Modern Times"? Laughable! Some obscure stuff no one else has ever heard of? Genius! You were the Mohamed Ali of music snobs. You made Jack Black in "High Fidelity" look like a piker. And now this. To embrace (even to a tiny degree, as you admit) something that you once held in contempt...it's like the end of an era. You used to stand for something, man! I don't think I'll ever get past this... Can't trust anybody these days, that's it this is the last straw, the last link i had regarding this society has been broken. I'm selling all my belongings, resigning from work and start living in a place removed from any links with the modern world. Well, considering that you live in Canada, you don't have to move too far.

Maybe I am not sexy (aka I am stupid) but I admit I didn't understand your post...and I can even read a topographic map.

Nice . What's the pressing like on side 2? Sorry for the delay, I was in Turkey. Holiday Side 2 is good, as far I remember. Why are you asking it? Welcome back. I was asking re: the side 2 as every copy I've ever heard had less than great pressing quality on the last track. Not sure why this is. I'll check it out.

I agree, otherwise GWB would be sexier then George Clooney and Brad Pitt

Nice . What's the pressing like on side 2? Sorry for the delay, I was in Turkey. Holiday Side 2 is good, as far I remember. Why are you asking it?

Wait a minute. Slow down here. You "used to blow her off"? As in, you used to dislike her? You used to hold her in disdain? (as you seem to do for everything else I like, and I'm a big Joni Mitchell fan, btw) Does this mean that (gasp) you changed your mind? Can such a thing be? Clem! I'm...I'm disillusioned! You used to be almost George W. Bush-like in your certainty. Your judgements were absolute. Beck? Hate 'im! U2? Crap! Beastie Boys? Suck! Kanye West? Practically U2! Bob Dylan's "Modern Times"? Laughable! Some obscure stuff no one else has ever heard of? Genius! You were the Mohamed Ali of music snobs. You made Jack Black in "High Fidelity" look like a piker. And now this. To embrace (even to a tiny degree, as you admit) something that you once held in contempt...it's like the end of an era. You used to stand for something, man! I don't think I'll ever get past this...

Incredible story. I had this discussion with a chemical engineer. He seemed to always look down on the arts and I told him that Americans were uneducated. Education in America is job-directed. There's a lot of niche education, while no one studies the liberal arts if they ever hope to get a job one day. In the meantime, our kids don't know how to find America in a world map, nor do they know what "War and Peace" is. Throw all the money you want to in this system, but until Americans realize the value of the humanities in education, then we'll remain uneducated. You're right - but alot of education is geared towards getting kids into paying jobs, not necessarily the arts. Does a mid-level production manager at Exxon care if prospective welders or engineers know where Slovenia is on a map, or have read War and Peace? From the manager's standpoint, will that have any effect on the employee's production? But that's the source of the problem. Our education is geared towards specific jobs. So we bow to the God of Mammon while those jobs that we became trained for eventually go overseas or become obsolete within a decade. Then it's back to school again if we don't want to make minimum wage. If you tie your education wagon to the job market, it will leave you vulnerable and unprepared for life. The American economy is a mess as far as jobs are concerned. We no longer have lifetime employment and American corporations only want part-timers or women (because they can pay them less) or immigrants. If you are lucky enough to qualify for good jobs, then you are walking on thin ice. You will be downsized or replaced by someone cheaper. Because the arts are downplayed, we are a nation of moral midgets. We have sacrificed everything for a mythical job market. I am sorry to say that you're not so unique in the world. In Italy just happened the same with the latest educational reforms. (thanks expecially to Berlusconi's one). Me and my wife got University degrees more then twenty years ago, and I have to admit that compared of today's graduates our skills are hugely higher. I would dare to say that our high school diplomas are almost at the same level that today's humanistic university degrees. Sad but true. Strictly job oriented education is one of the worst things that can happened to an educational system.

I agree with Claude. A part the fact that "digitally recorded" used Lps are usually cheaper then a new cd, almost half the price, at least over there. About the american vs german pressing, I have the Jarrett Japanese Concert Box and Carla Bley's Escalator Box set, both american pressings, and they sound ok for me, but I haven't heard the german pressings.

Are you drinking, Porcy? Ooops... "the few I drinked?" Very moderately lately due to health problems.

Aloc, this is the place I discovered in my alcoholic trip in Edinburgh: http://www.royalmilewhiskies.co.uk/ No need to say my heirs will sue them one of these days. And this is an italian guy who spend his life tasting and buying single casket from the distilleries, then bottle with his name. Pretty expensive and single malt, but the fews I drunk whorthed all the money. Not easy to find even in Italy. http://www.samaroli.it/English/default.htm

I beg your pardon , Im not a man of wealth and taste

Oh yeah, I think it's on the Paint It Black album. It doesn't exist a"Paint it Black" album of the Stones. "Paint It Black" is a song on Aftermath album (U.S. edition) and as a single in U.S. and U.K. In both countries reached the n.1 of the charts as single. "Simpathy For The Devil" is on Beggars Banquet.

The Stone's Paint It Black? Simpathy For The Devil

The Byrds BALLAD OF EASY RIDER Columbia 2-eyes stereo.

Thanks for the poem, Aloc. I didn't know it, nor I know Carl Sandburg, overall there are a lot of things I don't know, a world out me.

Diocletian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletian When I killed old Julius Caesar, I did it for the Empire, to make it stronger, and I killed JFK for the same reason. I feel that you undestimate the Force. Please allow me to introduce myself Im a man of wealth and taste Ive been around for a long, long year Stole many a mans soul and faith And I was round when jesus christ Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure that pilate Washed his hands and sealed his fate Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name But whats puzzling you Is the nature of my game I stuck around st. petersburg When I saw it was a time for a change Killed the czar and his ministers Anastasia screamed in vain I rode a tank Held a generals rank When the blitzkrieg raged And the bodies stank Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name, oh yeah Ah, whats puzzling you Is the nature of my game, oh yeah I watched with glee While your kings and queens Fought for ten decades For the gods they made I shouted out, Who killed the kennedys? When after all It was you and me Let me please introduce myself Im a man of wealth and taste And I laid traps for troubadours Who get killed before they reached bombay Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah But whats puzzling you Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah But whats confusing you Is just the nature of my game Just as every cop is a criminal And all the sinners saints As heads is tails Just call me lucifer cause Im in need of some restraint So if you meet me Have some courtesy Have some sympathy, and some taste Use all your well-learned politesse Or Ill lay your soul to waste, um yeah Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, um yeah But whats puzzling you Is the nature of my game, um mean it, get down Woo, who Oh yeah, get on down Oh yeah Oh yeah! Tell me baby, whats my name Tell me honey, can ya guess my name Tell me baby, whats my name I tell you one time, youre to blame

I've seen that coming for a long time, it ain't rocket science; diversity without assimilation, scio-economic classes, etc. A part "rocket science", he said "pitagora theorem", you use the very same arguments of this guy