Somehow I have always been under the impression that Lou Donaldson constantly played in a style of jazz that went BEYOND that, so .... ? Besides, just looking at the excerpt in the opening post: If you just take the core of one man's opinion and observations from his presence on the scene and even take them with a bit of salt, there STILL is a grain of "emperor's clothes" truth to it after all. Acquired wisdom (of what one - at large - is supposed NOT to disagree on) isn't always where wisdom really is. Lou Donaldson did play in a style that went beyond swing or jazz influenced r&b in the 1950's, but his playing regressed (in terms of "modernity") after that, and it seems that he was happy to play only what people wanted to hear - even to the point of memorizing a recorded solo so that people would hear exactly what they were used to. That's fine for him if that's what he wanted to do, but why put down others who wanted to play something new? As for his putdown of John Coltrane, someone should tell Lou that Trane's records have probably easily outsold his over the years, so what does that say about his theories of music and popularity?