mjzee

Out-of-phase? I didn't know that.

That may be so, but like I said before, perspective is always different from a distance. And, as you've demonstrated, your perspective on Giuliani is inherently (and unavoidably) slanted by your experiences. The city is, and always has been, what one makes of it. Koch was a character, no doubt, but a true opinion of him could not be formed from the suburban communities of Long Island or Westchester, or the tony/shielded communities of Northern Connecticut. Both of us are at an equal distance from the years we're discussing. It's irrelevant where I live now - I lived through those years in NYC, same as you. My perspective on Giuliani is slanted by my experiences - and yours are not? And by the way, we're both entitled to our opinions. It's not that "it may be so" - it actually is.

I think we're both entitled to our opinions.

Living in "New Jack City" may explain some of your exposure to "victimhood". Gee...what you call "victimhood," I just call "crime and mayhem." And where did you live, pray tell?

I love the Dinah sessions, esp. the one where she's just one of the musicians in the jam session. Sarah's in fine voice, but it's really a Sarah album with Clifford's solos. I don't have much use for the Helen Merrill session, but I know there are some vociferous defenders on this board.

A good summary by the Post: NY Post

I second the recommendations in this thread. It's a very special package, lovely. Almost something more to display than to play, though the music is good too.

This is a great deal Allen's offering; if you don't have this set, you need it.

I grew up in Brooklyn. Not the "cool, hip" parts of the Brooklyn of today (Williamsburg, Dumbo) or what I used to call the "Manhattan annex" (Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope), but in East Flatbush and Midwood. In the mid-80's and all of the '90's, I lived in Washington Heights in Manhattan.

You were never mugged? I was. You never had your apartment broken into? Many, many people in my building and my parents' building did; the only reason I didn't is that I put bars on all my windows that could be accessed by the fire escape (it looked like a prison) and reinforcements on the inside of my apartment door, including a police lock. In 1977, the battery in my parents' car was stolen about once a month. And, of course, I lived through the blackout of 1977. I saw many, many small businesses looted. The chaos of NYC during that time cannot be overstated.

A good summary by the Journal: WSJ

I was there - a lifelong New Yorker by that point. I stand by what I wrote - Giuliani really turned the city around. Koch was a great starting point, but let's not forget the ground we lost under David Dinkins. You know times were bad when NYC - the bastion of the Democratic Party - elected a Republican.

He was a good mayor, started NYC's turnaround. The real turnaround had to wait for Rudy Giuliani. But Koch lifted people's spirits and gave them a "can-do" attitude; he was the necessary tonic after the disastrous Abe Beame. And he was a New Yawkuh through-and-through. His administration was also a great patron of the arts. I remember arts in city parks bloomed under him.

Just saw this on Amazon; release date February 19. Never heard of the label (Ato Records), and no mention of it on dead.net, but it could be legitimate. 3 discs, $19.76:

On most of these, the prices now on Amazon are crazy. Perhaps they didn't actually come out? They are real I got them all. Bought them new when they came out for about €13,- a piece You bought them new in the last week or so?

4 Dexter Gordon Blue Notes for $8.01 + shipping from an Amazon Reseller: Amazon

Here's some more evidence that ECM may have extensive unissued sessions in their vaults: From the Amazon blurb: "Eberhard Weber played hundreds of concerts in his time as a member of the Jan Garbarek Group, and each of them included an extended feature for the bassist alone, often effectively a spontaneous composition rather than a bass solo in strict jazz sense. For Resume Weber has returned to recordings of these solo sequences and reworked them into an album with its own sense of flow. The unique sound of Eberhards customized electric bass is heard here mostly in the context of his own keyboard settings and treatments, but also augmented by the saxophones and overtone flute of Jan Garbarek (on three tracks) and by the percussion of Michael DiPasqua. Based on live recordings made between 1990 and 2007 at locations from Karlsruhe to Santiago, the album was mixed in the South of France by Weber, Manfred Eicher, Michael di Pasqua and Gerard de Haro in 2011."

On most of these, the prices now on Amazon are crazy. Perhaps they didn't actually come out?

Is it mentioned in Ashley Kahn's book?

I ordered from Amazon UK.

...and then there's that live Jarrett, Sleeper, from his European group that they put out last year. I tend to think they have a vault full of live material, at least. Well that one, you could argue, wasn't in ECM's vault but perhaps was brought to their attention by the Japanese radio station that recorded it. But, you're right, it could have been in ECM's vault.

Have you considered that there might not be any in the can to release? Each label recorded differently, and has a different mindset as to releasing every last note. Who's to say which is the "correct" way to do things? Blue Note had many albums left over because of varying sets of circumstances which may not be in place for a label like ECM. It's not as black and white as you may think. In any case, it's difficult to argue with ECM's methodology and track record --- they've been going strong for longer than Blue Note ever did. Still doesn't mean there aren't sessions in the can there. You (and I, and we) simply don't know.

I too wonder whether ECM has unissued sessions in their vaults. Some recent releases (Terje Rypdal and Garbarek/Gismonti/Haden, for example) contain previously-unreleased live sessions from the '70's and '80's.

I've just started reading this book, and it seems very useful: Amazon