Steve Reynolds

Fwiw, I have always loved the music of Art Pepper. One of my original favorite alto saxophonists. I also very much look forward to reading the new book. Maybe I will get a better perspective on the title once I read the book. I have a very soft and loving place in my heart for addicts who have suffered and suffer as I was and could again be that person. Peace and Blessings

Getting both of them. The first Decoy with Joe McPhee disc was as good an improv/free jazz recordings as has been released over the past few years.

I read Straight Life many years ago - maybe a bit over 20 years ago - when I had only a little bit of an idea that the next 10 or so years would end up in total degradation, disillusion, poverty and desperation due to my own drug addiction. Since I've been clean, I've seen so many friends and acquaintances who are addicts become lost in the horrors of active drug addiction - so when I read the title, I almost threw up. So I'm gratified that some participants here were also put off my the demeaning title.

Me Likey to hear the GREAT John Edwards and cohort drummer Steve Noble with Herr Brotzmann!!!

With a pianist and bassist I don't know Eliot Cardinaux - piano Will McEvoy - bass With the great Randy Peterson on drums I be first in line Get Ready to Receive Yourself

I guess I see you all on June 15th AND June 12th @ Roulette in Brooklyn

Looks like Evan is playing at the North Sea Jazz Festival with John Escreet's trio which us the quartet I saw last September, I would think. John Hebert and Tyshawn Sorey wre on bass and drums. Word was that they recorded a day or two after the show. Maybe the recording is coming out - good that they are playing together again if it is, in fact, the same quartet. Reading a few new and old threads focusing on tenor players, for me although I enjoy many past and present, nobody does it for me like Evan Parker on tenor. Listened to the 17:35 minute duo with Paul Lyttin this AM from the Mad Dogs box and it probably isn't out of the ordinary for Parker on tenor, what stands out in his improvising in this sort of context(duo with drums) are a few things - one is that it is duo the whole way through - and that for 17 minutes he is never lacking for ideas or inspiration. And this isn't necessarily a standout performance - look to disc 4 with Agusti Fernandez joining the famous trio. Listen to the whole first piece - it's a bit over 24 minutes, I think - but what happens in the last 5 to 6 minutes is beyond extraordinary. A tenorman over 65 isn't supposed to be able to play like he did 15 to 20 years ago - but he does. And last fall he played as good or better than he did in 2009 or 1999. Casual brilliance? Maybe for some but I don't take it likely.

Yeah!!!!

The American Quartet recording "Johnny's Corner Song" is also very good. With Eskelin, Eubanks and Dresser Saw that band in 1999 or so and Toombow to end the set was one of the great performances I've ever witnessed live.

You have all the Hemingway Hat Arts yet? My favorites are The Marmalade King, Demon Chaser and maybe Special Detail

Joe Maneri, Mat Maneri and Barre Phillips Two great ones: Tales of Rohnlief and Angles of Repose (Mat's personal favorite recording of him and his Dad)

Glad another great tenor player besides Tony Malaby knows current fashion trends!!!

Kurzmann is one of most interesting of all the electronics based improvisors that I have come across. His work with Burkhardt Stangl on a few recordings is wonderous. Look for the "old school" eai recording "Schnee" from 1999 or so for the evidence.

Who is the drummer?

Same person, same real name like you use. Just back then I was a bit too green and more than just snarky......these days I hope to be a bit more grown up and a bit less unstable.

Not true and this is your problem. Paradigms are indeed tough to break out of if you can't ignore the remaster folks and take care of yourself and folks enjoying the same (even if they like remasters). Get rid of the chip and find some friends. I got some friends but I'll always be the guy from the other board and that's OK with me. I always looked at things a bit different probably because I came to this music after 30 and within a few years was just as interested in Paul Lovens as Tony Williams which is not the norm. And within a few years much more interested to see or hear Paul Dunmall than even the late great masters. So my viewpoint is different from the norm here or anywhere. You are correct that I should let it all be but sometimes I revert towards the guy I used to be who had no tact which isn't the guy I am today. Peace and blessings

Point is many are more interested in listening to another version/remaster of the same recording. We all know revisiting and relistening is invigorating and enlightening. I was trying not to offend those who have been focusing on the same music here for over 20 years but I guess alternate viewpoints may not be encouraged here. I've been called worse than snarky, Chuck Not often called ignorant though. Paradigms are tough to break out of.

I guess we are the only ones. Also Joe Maneri, John Law, Jon Lloyd, Denis Charles, Brotzmann Tentet and Die Like a Dog quartet, John Lindberg's great black saint recordings, Mujician's classic recordings, etc. But I wonder how many people here have even listened to much of the great 90's music. Not many I think. Too busy realistening to the next issue of whatever No Try No Fail, baby

I dunno - I SAW Joe Maneri live 5 times and he could play like Joe Maneri at least in 2002 at 75. Plus I saw Benny Carter at 90 and he was almost as good as Al Grey was that day was at 72. And both Joe and Benny sat down. And not because Joe Maneri is just about my favorite musician of them all, I think it's very important to realize that seeing great musicians live is wonderous no matter how much of a legend to the general public or to some sort of self-appointed experts they might be. So I'm only going if they can play as live music for me with the opportunities I have to see brilliant creative vibrant musicians - I'm going to see the brilliant, vibrant creative musicians first and foremost every single time. Get Ready to Receive Yourself

Thanks for wording succinctly what after reading that piece I felt was the bottom line of it if you look at it reasonably. I doubt any of those "feds" at any time ever said "We're gonna shove some methanol-poisoned alcohol their way to teach them a lesson when they drink it". It was those who misused that stuff for making bootleg alcohol who were responsible. Like JSangrey said, if you are dealing with illegal/illicit substances from illicit sources, you are running a BIG risk at your very own peril. Like those in even lower strata of society did with "canned heat" and the like. Probably the key problem of this responsibility of substance abuse is that nobody probably ever fored the abusers at gunpoint at any time to drink or shoot until they became addicted in the first place. It was their very own decision. And then, at some point it became hard if not impossible to turn around and head back. But the original, initial responsibility that led them up that path remains with themselves, not with any third parties. Which to this day remains the key problem of addiction and how to get the addicted out ouf that vicious cycle. For sure addicts are responsible for whatever damage they do to themselves and others when they are using. However, none of us know when the real or imaginary line gets crossed from social drinking/using into addiction. Most of us believe that we could even be addicts at birth and once we started using, there was no turnng back. I know that once on the path the total destruction through drug addiction even if at the "early" or "initial" stages, there is no turning back. The progression is under way and the only ends are what we know they are. What is correctly pointed out above is that the only person responsible for ending that viscious cycle is the addict. The problem remains similar to what has always been. That same addict needs to break through denial and self diagnose themselves, stop using and then find something greater than themselves to help them stay clean. At least today there are more options but the reality outside of questionable drug replacement therapy for heroin addicts like methodon and seboxone, a relative small amount of addicts stay clean for any period of time compared to the amount of using addicts. The reality of drug addiction is that it is not easy to deal with or recover from but it is doable. The most difficult questions are some if the ones raised on this thread regarding responsibilities and those questions will always be difficult to deal with. What do you tell a mother who still suffers the guilt of bring a young daughter to bad neighborhoods and leaving them unattended on the street or I a car for hours many years ago - and they did that often - and yet they might be clean 10, 15 or 20 years? I know what I believe but it is hard for society to buy that an addict didn't choose that life - and it is very understandable that they won't or can't.

Just to be clear, those are my suppositions, not Randy's. And you're probably right. OTOH, having spent the majority of his life as a jazz musician, I'm sure that Randy has run across more than a few addicts and alcoholics, though "to know" is not necessarily to understand.

The two musicians in the world that I have been unable to see live that I most want see live are John Edwards and Louis Moholo-Moholo

If I had a plane or a ticket or the time, there would be nowhere I would rather be than to experience all of the above as well as the Barry Guy New Orchestra dates. Alexander - you do realize you are blessed - and a marvelous musician to be part of this. I can't imagine being on stage with the monster that is Edwards/Moholo-Moholo. Well especially since I can't play piano!!!!

If I heard Tony correctly, they recorded with the band I saw last night

I need to replace my long gone copy Other Brothers, baby