Clunky Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 Duke Jordan ------Trio--------(Vogue UK) 10 inch. Rec NYC 1954 for Vogue France by Henri Renaud Very fine set. no doubt this must be on that enormous Vogue CD boxset Quote
JSngry Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 aka Hamba Khale, apparently not an original Alan Bates production, but one which he seems to have obtained at some point...I do not pretend to understand all the routes this one has taken since 1968. I do understand, though, why it's not on anybody's "top" list, but I don't understand why it also seems to be relegated to the Secondary Bin Of Shoulder-Shrugging Curiosities either...there's more to it than that, as both document and music. For one thing, I don't know that Barbieri has ever been more recorded more clearly/cleanly, ever. That matters to me, because from a saxophonistical standpoint, his post-Pharoah techniques are a joy to hear in this much detail. The usual dismissals of "just biting the reed and squealing" have never been accurate, and if you're of a mind to, you can hear very clearly the exact techniques being used. But that's secondary (at best) to what matters here, fine, passionate playing, very fluent, very substantive, just a reminder that there was a time when Gato was playing like that. This is in no way Ibrahim's Most Transcendent Moment, or anything like that, but he brings his usual focus/purpose to the session, and that is never anything less than a plus. Also a treat to hear him on cello. I got really lucky with the pressing on this one. HEAVY vinyl, and the pork steak I had broiling in the oven was the only real popping I heard on either side. Of all the initial Arista/Freedom releases that went pretty quickly to the cutout bins, this is the one that seemed to stay there the longest and end up the cheapest, stickers pasted over it until it got to the 3/$1.00 point...which is sad, but understandable too, most "jazz fans" of the time either turning up their nose at Gato Barbieri altogether, or not looking for Gato Barbieri in the cutout bins with an album cover like that on a label like that. Not nearly a case of attention MUST be paid, but definitely a case of attention paid will be returned at a net profit, for sure. Quote
HutchFan Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 I like that Gato record too. ALL Barbieri from that period is worth a listen, imho. Quote
JSngry Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 One of the most "imperfect" "perfect" jazz records, ever, imo, especially as people go from being live bodies to dead bodies to lingering spirits who are imaginary only if you don't hear them (and/or how necessary the Rhodes was for times/places like this, REJOICE IN THE RHODES!!!!). Blessed are they who portray the inexact fingers and the wavery embouchure in the service of the lines with consistently perfect time, shape, and dimension, for theirs shall be the Kingdom Of Jazz. All others, verily, risk sitting at the WRONG hand of God. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 aka Hamba Khale, apparently not an original Alan Bates production, but one which he seems to have obtained at some point...I do not pretend to understand all the routes this one has taken since 1968. I do understand, though, why it's not on anybody's "top" list, but I don't understand why it also seems to be relegated to the Secondary Bin Of Shoulder-Shrugging Curiosities either...there's more to it than that, as both document and music. For one thing, I don't know that Barbieri has ever been more recorded more clearly/cleanly, ever. That matters to me, because from a saxophonistical standpoint, his post-Pharoah techniques are a joy to hear in this much detail. The usual dismissals of "just biting the reed and squealing" have never been accurate, and if you're of a mind to, you can hear very clearly the exact techniques being used. But that's secondary (at best) to what matters here, fine, passionate playing, very fluent, very substantive, just a reminder that there was a time when Gato was playing like that. This is in no way Ibrahim's Most Transcendent Moment, or anything like that, but he brings his usual focus/purpose to the session, and that is never anything less than a plus. Also a treat to hear him on cello. I got really lucky with the pressing on this one. HEAVY vinyl, and the pork steak I had broiling in the oven was the only real popping I heard on either side. Of all the initial Arista/Freedom releases that went pretty quickly to the cutout bins, this is the one that seemed to stay there the longest and end up the cheapest, stickers pasted over it until it got to the 3/$1.00 point...which is sad, but understandable too, most "jazz fans" of the time either turning up their nose at Gato Barbieri altogether, or not looking for Gato Barbieri in the cutout bins with an album cover like that on a label like that. Not nearly a case of attention MUST be paid, but definitely a case of attention paid will be returned at a net profit, for sure. Always been a big fav of mine, for whatever that's worth...isn't that the one where the liner notes quote Gato to the efect "I don't scream for the same reasons Pharogh Sanders screams"? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Yeah, good one. This was originally released on the tiny Italian label Togetherness in the '60s, later reissued by Durium in the early 70s, and then Bates picked it up for Freedom, thus packaging it nicely for the Arista Freedom series in the US. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 One of the most "imperfect" "perfect" jazz records, ever, imo, especially as people go from being live bodies to dead bodies to lingering spirits who are imaginary only if you don't hear them (and/or how necessary the Rhodes was for times/places like this, REJOICE IN THE RHODES!!!!). Blessed are they who portray the inexact fingers and the wavery embouchure in the service of the lines with consistently perfect time, shape, and dimension, for theirs shall be the Kingdom Of Jazz. All others, verily, risk sitting at the WRONG hand of God. Thanks for that. He was a friend. Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Earlier: Steve Grossman "jazz a confronto" (Horo, Italy). A Brazilian tinged quintet date that starts out merely pleasant but by the time side two was near its end I was wanting more! This might be a "grower". Various "Ossiach Live" 3LP (BASF, Germany) a very patchy and uneven set but definitely some jewels amongst the rough. Some nice John Surman/Trio, a side long George Gruntz track, Weather Report, Anima Sound, and some Tangerine Dream too even. Had my eye on this set for nearly 20 years and only recently took the plunge on a nice copy for only $30. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 that Ossiach Live set is interesting; picked it up on eBay years ago, probably for more than $30 but I doubt the price was offensive. The Gruntz material is my favorite, albeit not on the level (for me) of Noon in Tunisia... Quote
JSngry Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 It's like going all into a bigass ball of cotton candy only to suddenly realize that you've fallen into an ocean of squid ink. Still delightful, just...unexpected as all get out. Quote
mjazzg Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Cecil Taylor - One Too Many Salty Swift And Not Goodbye [Hat Hut] arrived today. What a revelation. Astonishing music making Quote
JSngry Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I had fears of some really over-dramatic emo kitsch, but no. Some of the settings...predictably "bourgeois ", but the readings themselves are contently strong & compelling (and the source material impeccable) in an of course Sidney Poitier type way (I find some interesting parallels in his cadences and William Shatner's, but to completely different ends). So, yeah, very..."that", but also must be considered as part of the same spectrum as something like Celebrations & Solitudes, not something apart from it. Apart from that...some interesting things found in the liner notes of the 1969 UA (still using the orange and pink lables) release - Specs Powell on broad as drummer, percussionist, and pianist, Bob Porter as assistant engineer, and - liner notes by George Butler, Ph.D. as well as Album Coordinator: Dr. George Butler. So - One Degree of Sidney Poitier to Elvin Jones, Grant Green, Bobbi Humphrey, and Black Byrd. Also in the liner notes, this: American black people remember Paul Laurence Dunbar largely for poems and monologues such as LIZA; THE PARTY; and the three dialect poems included in this album. They have long been favorite repertory items of the "dramatic-reader" at church socials and teas. Jeeezus, I had completely forgotten about "dramatic readers", church socials and teas, all of that. Hard Core Bourgeois, to be sure, but also - oral tradition keeping ideas and attitudes fresh in people's minds past and stronger than the written page itself, reference points for later decision making either on or around The Corner as well as in The Real World., and keep that in mind when pondering that "jazz" brings that part of life to it as well, aka Duke's line about New Orleans had more churches that whore houses. Anyway...hearing Poitier & Doris Belack (an interesting choice) trade verses on "When Malinda Sings" (or as the album's track list calls it, "When Melinda Sings", it's a good thing. But HOLY SHIT, this album was originally released in 1955?!?!?!?!?! sooo....WTF? UA picked this 1955 indie release up, changed "Negro" to "Black" and...did what? Overdubbed the music" Dr. George Butler acts like this is a new release? wow. FUCK - I see now that George Butler took Lorraine Hansberry's liner notes, parsed them down a little bit but otherwise quoted them verbatim - and put his name on them. Did this motherfucker have NO shame? Quote
JSngry Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 This record needs to be preserved in the Smithsonian. Quote
JSngry Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Interesting post-hardbop originals that reach more towards Bill Barron than Cedar Walton in terms of harmonies & structures, James Clay and other local heroes and flavors, including one weird ass engineering/mixing/whatever that does none of it any favors. But Roger is still alive and playing today, still a beautiful and proactive thinker and conversationalist. Long may he wave. Quote
JSngry Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Still not that much of a Carmen mcRae fan, but arrangers include Gerald Wilson, Thad Jones, Johnny Mandel, and....some people who are not them. Saw this for 4 bucks about 5 years ago, and said, eh, ok, buy now, listen later,. Later was today. Tell you what, for the first four songs of Side One, I was thinking about re-examining Carmen McRae. A wholly characteristic Gerald Wilson chart on "Can't Hide Love" with wildly inappropriate piccolo trills on the fade, double-tracked vocals, and Carmen's sounding like she's loving all of it (and besides, that's one of the greatest songs of its era, period). Then a freakin GORGEOUS reading of Cole Porter's (or so says the record...) "The Man I Love", Mandel presaging his transcendent work with Shirley Horn of decades later, Carmen sings the verse, you get to hear that uber-rare Harvey Mason/Joe Mondragon hookup, damn, this one is for all time, then "Only Women Bleed", and yeah, I know, but Carmen is really leaning into the lyrics, so hey, and finally, a batshit crazy, a batshit fucking crazy Thad Jones chart on Bill Withers' "I Wish You Well" that just has me LOL-ing WAY loud by the time it's over, and then I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be alright after all. And then - "All By Myself". Nothing can save "All By Myself", that thing was death, is death, will ALWAYS be death, fuck you Eric Carmen, and fuck you People Of Earth for enabling that shit, too late now, but y'all going to hell by yourownselves on this one, not me, uh-uh. So that was Side One, and Side Two did not recover. The chances were there, but, too bad, most everybody's dead now, no taking it back even if they wanted to (and they really should have). So, four bucks for four songs and two real keepers. I feel neither cheated nor rewarded, not particularly. In another 10-15 years when I get this one back out, I'll know where to start and when to stop, time not totally wasted, although pretty damn close. But - here, this one's on me. Quote
paul secor Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 Marty Cook & the New York Sound Explosion: Trance (Circle) Quote
jeffcrom Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 Marty Cook & the New York Sound Explosion: Trance (Circle) Okay; that looks cool! Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 Ditto! Never heard of that one... Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 It's good! One to add to the list of neverending cool records to hear Currently playing one of two reissue LPs received in the mail today: Amancio D'Silva "hum dono" (vocalion, UK). A definite improvement on the CD version in terms of mastering/sound. Better bass and overall a more visceral impact...wish I knew this vinyl reissue was imminent when I bought the CD!!PS I wonder when "integration" will be reissued again? It's easily the stronger session in my book. Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 And now the second reissue LP I received today: Borje Fredriksson "intervall" (parlophone, Sweden) A "record store day" release in Europe apparently; a numbered edition of 500 copies. My first ever RSD purchase! Very happy to see this nicely done reissue come out...will save me $300-400 on an original issue. Sounds great so far... Quote
sidewinder Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Currently playing one of two reissue LPs received in the mail today: Amancio D'Silva "hum dono" (vocalion, UK). A definite improvement on the CD version in terms of mastering/sound. Better bass and overall a more visceral impact...wish I knew this vinyl reissue was imminent when I bought the CD!! PS I wonder when "integration" will be reissued again? It's easily the stronger session in my book. Worth a spin under a record cleaning machine, if available. I reckon lots of copies might have pressing detrius on them - one of the tracks on mine clicked until I ran it under the machine, even though visually it was flawless. Here's hoping that Dutton Vocalion put out a few more of the Lansdownes on vinyl. The Guy Warrens would be nice ! Not sure I would totally agree with you on 'Integration' ( ) but I agree it's also a really, really nice session that is well worthy of reissue on vinyl by Vocalion (and another CD issue would be good). The fact that 'Hum Dono' has Harriott on it gives it that 'historic/landmark' edge, I guess. Edited May 15, 2015 by sidewinder Quote
corto maltese Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 Yeah, good one. This was originally released on the tiny Italian label Togetherness in the '60s, later reissued by Durium in the early 70s, and then Bates picked it up for Freedom, thus packaging it nicely for the Arista Freedom series in the US. Actually the Arista-Freedom predates the Durium reissue (late 70's and eminently avoidable because of the cover art). The original "Hamba Khale!", credited to the "Gato Barbieri Dollar Brand Jazz Duo", has a beautifully designed cover and was released in 1969 on the Togetherness label, which is indeed quite obscure (I don't know any other release). To make things complicated "Togetherness" is also the title of a (very fine) recording by the Gato Barbieri-Don Cherry quintet which was originally issued in 1966 on the... Durium label. The rhythm section on that album are Jean-François Jenny-Clarke and Aldo Romano and maybe that's the reason why it's sometimes mixed up with "Obsession", a trio session from 1967 which only saw the light of day in 1978 on the Affinity label. Sorry about the disgression, but these Italian recordings of the 1960's are really very worthwile and the discographical mess might be one of the reasons they're often neglected. Quote
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