paul secor Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 Jimmy Forrest: Out of the Forrest (Prestige/OJC) Quote
Royal Oak Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 Jimmy Forrest is ace. It took me a while to "discover" him. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Clunky said: Â Two Tranes this morning. Both in mono but don't sound any the worse for that. HMV pressings ultra reliable and quiet. Â A love supreme---(HMV) mono Crescent------(HMV) mono very impressive....i bet they sound sooooooooooo much better than the US impluses......are they the same stampers (RVG) even if not, i bet they still sound sooooooo much better On 4/16/2016 at 11:40 AM, clifford_thornton said: It's really good. I could easily get you a copy as it seems to float around NYC bins a lot. Â ithats ok, thank u though, but that is intereting- i didnt know nyc had many jazz record options now,---so u can still in NYC have jazz record "finds"?? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 Indeed, I find and buy things often! Some of them are even good and affordable... I have a crisp HMV mono of "Coltrane" that sounds amazing. I do not believe that they used RVG stampers but I'll re-check mine. Quote
Clunky Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 None of my HMV Impulses have RVG stamped on them. Second generation tapes were used. As I recall it the deluxe 2CD of A Love Supreme issued a few years ago was sourced from the UK copy tapes of the stereo master, used orginally for the HMV release.  Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 Early copies of the HMV Kulu Se Mama contained Om, which had not been released yet! ABC sent the wrong master. Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Early copies of the HMV Kulu Se Mama contained Om, which had not been released yet! ABC sent the wrong master. That is crazy!! This discussion of HMV pressings vs Impulse pressings is making me feel like I'm reading a Steve Hoffmann forum!  All I can say is that the few clean original Impulse pressings I have all sound fantastic. Right now: Gerd Dudek & Takehira Honda "flying to the sky" (Trio, Japan) great session with some impressive support by Gunter Lenz and Motohiko Hino. Quote
sidewinder Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) I've got copies of both of those Coltrane HMVs that Clunky mentions. They sound very good but not necessarily to my mind superior to the original Impulses. Maybe condition has something to do with it, as old Impulses over here can sometimes be pretty beat up. The worst Impulses are those Canadian Spartans - garbage ! Original orange and red/black (including later pressings) usually sound pretty good to me. The red/blacks can often be really good value. Edited April 20, 2016 by sidewinder Quote
sidewinder Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 35 minutes ago, Homefromtheforest said: Ugh - Spartons...yuck! Â Yeah - shame really as the sleeves look like the orig. apart from the 'Made In Canada' in the gatefold. I wonder if the came pressing plant (Toronto?) did the Canadian Pacific Jazz/World Pacifics? Quote
JohnS Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Early copies of the HMV Kulu Se Mama contained Om, which had not been released yet! ABC sent the wrong master. I snapped one of these up before it was withdrawn. Â Quote
sidewinder Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Homefromtheforest said: Ugh - Spartons...yuck! Â Of course, 'Sparton' not 'Spartans'. Pressed in Sparta would have been appropriate though.. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 9 hours ago, sidewinder said: I've got copies of both of those Coltrane HMVs that Clunky mentions. They sound very good but not necessarily to my mind superior to the original Impulses. Maybe condition has something to do with it, as old Impulses over here can sometimes be pretty beat up. The worst Impulses are those Canadian Spartans - garbage ! Original orange and red/black (including later pressings) usually sound pretty good to me. The red/blacks can often be really good value. I got a Sparton pressing of Coleman Hawkins "Wrapped Tight" that was pressed with RVG stampers and it sounded OK to me. Quote
jeffcrom Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 Â Â Â Last night and this morning: Reggie Workman Ensemble - Synthesis (Leo) Earl Hines - Quintessential Recording Session (Chiaroscuro) Eddie Lang & Joe Venuti - Stringing the Blues (CBS) Quote
paul secor Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, jeffcrom said: Â Â Â Last night and this morning: Â Earl Hines - Quintessential Recording Session (Chiaroscuro) Eddie Lang & Joe Venuti - Stringing the Blues (CBS) Have the Lang/Venuti in other forms - wonderful music. Wish the Hines were readily available, but I guess I already have enough Hines to listen to. Edited April 20, 2016 by paul secor Quote
sidewinder Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: I got a Sparton pressing of Coleman Hawkins "Wrapped Tight" that was pressed with RVG stampers and it sounded OK to me. Interesting - maybe I just got a bad one... Â Quote
paul secor Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (Atlantic.4 Men with Beards) I listened once and then compared the 4 Men with Beards LP to the Rhino CD. (I should know better by now than to drive myself crazy doing this sort of thing.) The CD version jacks up the sound and gives more presence to the bass. The LP sounds more relaxed, but the bass is recessed - perhaps that's how the bass sounded in the original issue. In the end, I'll keep both - the CD primarily for the additional tracks. Note to myself - listen for enjoyment - not to make comparisons. Quote
BillF Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) 20 hours ago, paul secor said: Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (Atlantic.4 Men with Beards) I listened once and then compared the 4 Men with Beards LP to the Rhino CD. (I should know better by now than to drive myself crazy doing this sort of thing.) The CD version jacks up the sound and gives more presence to the bass. The LP sounds more relaxed, but the bass is recessed - perhaps that's how the bass sounded in the original issue. In the end, I'll keep both - the CD primarily for the additional tracks. Note to myself - listen for enjoyment - not to make comparisons. First owned it c.1960 on vinyl, later on CD. Agree Art and Spanky sounded less together than on recordings like Hard Drive. Thanks for alerting me to the extra tracks. Will give it a listen on Spotify.  Edited April 21, 2016 by BillF Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Atlantic recording and, possibly, bad mixing surely can't have helped the band sound "fiery." Quote
paul secor Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 The Complete Erskine Hawkins Volumes 1/2 1938-1939 (RCA France) Quote
Clunky Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Miles Davis----The New Miles Davis Quintet------(Top Rank Japan) deep groove ,  1960s ? Japanese release of Prestige material . I'm not clear then this was released but the DG on both sides , laminated thin card sleeve with flip backs makes it look much older than any other Japanese issue I have . Edited April 21, 2016 by Clunky Found reference on eBay suggesting 1965 release date Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Yes, my understanding is that the Top Rank pressings are from the mid- to late-1960s. Quote
paul secor Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 The Jazz Doctors: Intensive Care (Cadillac) Too bad this band didn't record more. Quote
medjuck Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Clunky said: Miles Davis----The New Miles Davis Quintet------(Top Rank Japan) deep groove ,  1960s ? Japanese release of Prestige material . I'm not clear then this was released but the DG on both sides , laminated thin card sleeve with flip backs makes it look much older than any other Japanese issue I have . Is it this?  Quote
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