brownie Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 Coral Rock is awesome...Mr Sangrey turned me onto that one (along with about 10,000 other things). Okay, I'll keep pondering the Shorter...in the interim, what are the other "must-own" titles in this series? I have the Waldron/Lacy as well. Thanks gang. The Burrell was a real nice surprise-if nothing for Silva's electric violin! Roscoe Mitchell's there too. Wish I had more in the series, but they were too expensive for me at the time. Guess I'll check out Walmart.com Don't skip the Roswell Rudd (with John Tchicai). One of the best of the series! Quote
Uncle Skid Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Thanks to dova for locating a cheap source for this series! I really hate the idea of buying stuff from them, but I've been looking for more of this series for quite a while now. Received Rudd, Wright, Burrell, and Thornton earlier this week. Already had Waldron/Lacy. I'm thinking I probably should have pulled the trigger on some more. I still can't believe most (if not all) of these were in stock at $14.88. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Get 'em all. Great music. Adam/Donald Petersen's thoughtful opinions aside, I find a lot of these to be better than the contemporaneous series on BYG Actuel. Quote
dova Posted June 17, 2007 Report Posted June 17, 2007 I recently purchased 11 of the 15 and held off getting these 4: Art Ensemble: Certain Blacks Art Ensemble:w/ Fontellabass Paul Bley: Inprovisie Anthony Braxton: Solo Improvisations Free America is a wonderful series packaged similar to Verve Elites with good sound. Does anybody have opinions on the above 4 , I appreciate your thoughts. Dova Quote
jazzbo Posted June 17, 2007 Report Posted June 17, 2007 I avoided the first three you list. . . I have the Braxton and enjoy it. . . . Quote
AndrewHill Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 Braxton's Sax Improv Series F is very good; actually, really really good. I have not heard the other three, but I've heard, but have not heard myself, that the Bley is for particular tastes.... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 The Bley is good, but must be taken as "of its time" and sort of an interesting excursion within the whole of his career. The title track, a free improvisation with Moog, piano, and Bennink's drums, is really nice, spare and moody stuff. Both of the AEC dates you mention are very good, in my opinion, and shouldn't be dismissed. Haven't spun the Braxton LP in some time, but remember enjoying it handily. Quote
jazzbo Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 I passed them because I'm not an AEC fan. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 Well, that's a valid reason... Quote
B. Clugston Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 The Braxton solo is my favourite of his alto solo albums. Certain Blacks has never been a favourite of mine and I've never heard the Fontella Bass one. Improvisie is time warped in an enjoyable sense, but not enjoyable enough for me to buy it. With 11 down, 4 to go, might as well pull the trigger on all of them. Quote
GregK Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 The Fontella Bass with the Art Ensemble is good, a little different from their usual sound (more funky? I'm not sure how to describe it), not as good as Phase One. The Certain Blacks title is probably not as good as either of the other two Art Ensemble titles in this series Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 The Certain Blacks title is probably not as good as either of the other two Art Ensemble titles in this series Possibly 'cause it was not an Art Ensemble session. They were pissed when it came out under their "name". Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 19, 2007 Report Posted June 19, 2007 I'm fond of it, but that's just me... I assume, then, that it was originally supposed to be a Chicago Beau/Julio Finn date? And where did Bill Howell come from? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 19, 2007 Report Posted June 19, 2007 I'm fond of it, but that's just me... I assume, then, that it was originally supposed to be a Chicago Beau/Julio Finn date? And where did Bill Howell come from? Correct. Don't know about Howell. Roscoe told me that after this was issued the group would only allow 3 members on a date without getting "leader" pay. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 19, 2007 Report Posted June 19, 2007 Interesting, thanks. Wonder if this could be fairly extrapolated to the two Shepp America sessions with Beau and Finn. Quote
Rosco Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 Bump. Just bought the Shorter and am totally in awe of Windo (although it's Dyani and Augustus' contributions that really seem to be central to this music). Shorter almost seems like a colourist on his own album. I've never heard Orgasm, so I can't compare. My copy is #1871, btw Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 There's lots of great Windo out there, and Tes Esat is certainly one fine, fine example. I don't know if one can say it's "canonically" an important date or anything, but it sure is a fun listen. There's a lot of speculation about the date of recording - the disc says what, '70, and the LP has no date on it. I believe Gary's widow had placed it in '73, around the same time as his work with Ray Russell. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 20, 2008 Report Posted August 20, 2008 Pretty sure I bought the lp before '73. Quote
blajay Posted December 22, 2008 Report Posted December 22, 2008 Great thread. I've noticed some of these (if not all) are available on Amazon for around $9 as MP3 downloads. I pretty much still never buy MP3 albums, but does that make the limited amount moot? Quote
AndrewHill Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 Yeah, an unusual move by Universal to put out such a great batch of avant garde titles. My guess, is that this is all we're going to see of any future Free America titles in the future, at least in cd form. Quote
peterintoronto Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 Yeah, an unusual move by Universal to put out such a great batch of avant garde titles. My guess, is that this is all we're going to see of any future Free America titles in the future, at least in cd form. It's probably my favorite avant-jazz reissue series. Getting all 15 of these took a lot of work though, as I only started buying them early this year! Quote
sidewinder Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 There's lots of great Windo out there, and Tes Esat is certainly one fine, fine example. I don't know if one can say it's "canonically" an important date or anything, but it sure is a fun listen. There's a lot of speculation about the date of recording - the disc says what, '70, and the LP has no date on it. I believe Gary's widow had placed it in '73, around the same time as his work with Ray Russell. I remember seeing the 'Tes Esat' LP as a deletion around 1978 but didn't pick it up I'm afraid. I'd always thought it came out around 73/74. Quote
sidewinder Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Bump. Just picked up the Paul Bley and the Lacy/Waldron. Will have to get hold of the 'Emergency' and possibly the Burrell too before they disappear into a black hole. Quote
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