coooltrane Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Saw BB KIng last night . . .great gig seeing as he is 87 years young Quote
ejp626 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 Saw the VSO doing Delius's Brigg Fair, Britten's Violin Concerto, and Elgar's Enigma Variations. The Delius was ok and I quite enjoyed the Elgar. I did not care for the Britten, neither the performance nor the piece itself. It had all these interminable false endings, like I was watching Jackson's Lord of the Rings. I just wanted the f'ing performance to be over and it went on and on. With only a few exceptions, I really think concertos should bow out at 20-25 minutes max and symphonies should strive for 45 minutes. This was at least 30 minutes, moving into 35 minute territory. And I just thought all the super high pitched playing didn't do much or go anywhere interesting. It didn't help that this was right in the middle of the Passacaglia. A few modern composers have been able to get away with this high pitched playing, like Messiaen or Shostakovich in the early String Quartets, but usually only as the very ending of the piece. It is too hard to retreat from this and then keep the piece moving forward. There was one amusing moment, however, where the violin player takes the melody, such as it was, up into the rafters, and then it was taken over by the piccolo. A bit more of that, and I might have been a bit more open to the piece. Anyway, this is definitely a composition I will avoid in the future. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Saw the VSO doing Delius's Brigg Fair, Britten's Violin Concerto, and Elgar's Enigma Variations. The Delius was ok and I quite enjoyed the Elgar. I did not care for the Britten, neither the performance nor the piece itself. It had all these interminable false endings, like I was watching Jackson's Lord of the Rings. I just wanted the f'ing performance to be over and it went on and on. With only a few exceptions, I really think concertos should bow out at 20-25 minutes max and symphonies should strive for 45 minutes. This was at least 30 minutes, moving into 35 minute territory. And I just thought all the super high pitched playing didn't do much or go anywhere interesting. It didn't help that this was right in the middle of the Passacaglia. A few modern composers have been able to get away with this high pitched playing, like Messiaen or Shostakovich in the early String Quartets, but usually only as the very ending of the piece. It is too hard to retreat from this and then keep the piece moving forward. There was one amusing moment, however, where the violin player takes the melody, such as it was, up into the rafters, and then it was taken over by the piccolo. A bit more of that, and I might have been a bit more open to the piece. Anyway, this is definitely a composition I will avoid in the future. Britten's Violin Concerto is an early piece, though it has his fingerprints. It's never one I've listened to much though I've played it more in recent years. Much prefer Walton's from the same time period. Brigg Fair is a nice idea but the variations always seem to me to pound the tune to bits in the end. Listen to a folk singer sing it. Delius was never really part of the folk song movement - always seems to me to have more in common with Debussy (though you don't hear that in Brigg Fair). I keep meaning to go to Brigg as it's not far from where I live - don't think there's anything there (certainly not a fair!) but I like the idea. The Enigma Variations are extraordinary and well worth repeated listening - lots in there to get your head round and emotionally involving. I'm not sure what Bruckner, Mahler or Shostakovich would have to say about your 45 minutes rule! Edited February 18, 2013 by A Lark Ascending Quote
ejp626 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 The Enigma Variations are extraordinary and well worth repeated listening - lots in there to get your head round and emotionally involving. I'm not sure what Bruckner, Mahler or Shostakovich would have to say about your 45 minutes rule! I really only went for the Elgar, and it did make the concert worthwhile. I believe this is the 2nd time I've seen it performed. Well, there are always exceptions, but honestly, I don't care for Bruckner or Mahler and generally prefer the Shostakovich pieces that are under an hour. Not even that taken by Beethoven's 9th. All of them could have been edited down and improved. It's obviously a personal preference, but I think anything that needs to be said and expressed in a piece of music can be conveyed in that amount of time. I find that even among the relative elite lay folk that attend concerts, 45 minutes is the limit beyond which you can't even recall how the piece started. Furthermore, an awful lot of recent pop and jazz albums would be better and certainly tighter if they stuck to 45-50 minutes. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 It's obviously a personal preference, but I think anything that needs to be said and expressed in a piece of music can be conveyed in that amount of time. I find that even among the relative elite lay folk that attend concerts, 45 minutes is the limit beyond which you can't even recall how the piece started. Furthermore, an awful lot of recent pop and jazz albums would be better and certainly tighter if they stuck to 45-50 minutes. Yes, it can be hard going, especially if you don't know the piece. But at home there's no need to listen to the full hour+ in one go. You can play a couple of movements, go and make the tea, and then come back for the rest. Mahler, I think in the 2nd, stipulated that there should be a rest between the 1st movement and the rest. I don't think many conductors pay any attention. I find whole operas hard to take in one go. Prefer to play them an act at a time, often on different days. Actually makes you more attentive to the later acts. I grew up in the early 70s of double LP concept albums (Tales of Topographic Oceans, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Septober Energy, Frames) so it was actually long pieces of classical music I craved. Mahler and Bruckner were my way in! It took me a long time to get around to Mozart, Haydn etc. Personal preference, as you say. Quote
king ubu Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Vijay Iyer Trio tonight ... only caught him in duo with Rudresh Mahanthappa before. Looking forward a lot! Quote
relyles Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Craig Harris' Souls Within A Veil. Quote
king ubu Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Iyer's trio was fine, or rather: first set was a bit tame, kind of like a warm-up in hindsight ... the very long (90-100 minutes, I think) second set was amazing though, including a wonderful solo on "Darn That Dream", a great cover of a Herbie Nichols tune and then also "Time After Time", which kept ringing in my head all night long ... Tomorrow: Mike Reed’s Loose Assembly & Living by Lanterns ++++Loose Assembly:_ Greg Ward altosax_ Tomeka Reid cello_ Jason Adasiewicz vibraphone_ Joshua Abrams bass_ Mike Reed drums/electronics _+US++++ + ++++Living by Lanterns:_ Taylor Ho Bynum cornet_Matt Bauder tenorsax_Greg Ward altosax_Mary Halvorson guitar_Jason Adasiewicz vibraphone_Nick Butcher electronics_Tomeka Reid cello_ Joshua Abrams bass_Tomas Fujiwara drums_ Mike Reed drums/electronics _+US+++++ Looking forward very, very much! Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted February 23, 2013 Report Posted February 23, 2013 Richard Thompson for the zillionth time next Saturday. Mark Lockheart doing his "Ellington in Anticipation" thing the week after - I hope! Various marbles got in the way of the first three Sheffield Jazz concerts I had planned in the last 6 weeks. Quote
king ubu Posted February 24, 2013 Report Posted February 24, 2013 Iyer's trio was fine, or rather: first set was a bit tame, kind of like a warm-up in hindsight ... the very long (90-100 minutes, I think) second set was amazing though, including a wonderful solo on "Darn That Dream", a great cover of a Herbie Nichols tune and then also "Time After Time", which kept ringing in my head all night long ... Tomorrow: Mike Reed’s Loose Assembly & Living by Lanterns ++++Loose Assembly:_ Greg Ward altosax_ Tomeka Reid cello_ Jason Adasiewicz vibraphone_ Joshua Abrams bass_ Mike Reed drums/electronics _+US++++ + ++++Living by Lanterns:_ Taylor Ho Bynum cornet_Matt Bauder tenorsax_Greg Ward altosax_Mary Halvorson guitar_Jason Adasiewicz vibraphone_Nick Butcher electronics_Tomeka Reid cello_ Joshua Abrams bass_Tomas Fujiwara drums_ Mike Reed drums/electronics _+US+++++ Looking forward very, very much! Wow, terrific concert! They skipped the quintet set and played two long sets in the large formation. Nick Butcher wasn't there, no electronics from Reed either, as far as I could tell ... Jason Adasiewicz was laying out the night before at the Bimhuis, not feeling well, I heard. He was very much a presence tonight. I loved the twin-drums of Reed and Fujiwara, infectuous to boot! ... I loved Mary Halvorson's guitar, at times melodic and playful, at times probing and noisy ... I loved the three-horn frontline, muscular tenor from Bauder, whimsical, at time enormously lyrical alto from Ward (what a sound!), and truly Puck-like cornet from Taylor Ho Bynum, running the gamut from digjeridoo-sounds to punching highnote runs ... I loved Tomeka Reid's cello (low in the mix, alas, but in the second set she had a lengthy feature ... I loved the boomy bass of Josh Abrams (who also had a few fine solo spots) ... and I loved the music! Based on some Sun Ra stuff they got on tape or some such ... not that it really matters, but indeed this is Chicago music, funky, earthy, aware, wild, lyrical, hilarious, sublime, stomping, preaching, swinging, singing, whispering, crying, rhapsodizing ... a truly wonderful concert! Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted February 24, 2013 Report Posted February 24, 2013 Sounds great, Ubu I've seen some those musicians but I think I need to check out Mike Reed and Gred Ward....I may check out Fujiwara's band when they play on April 6th @ Cornelia Street. Mary Halvorson is in the band along with a few other interesting players. My only complaint about some of these bands from this scene is that sometimes the music is overly composed. Ingrid's Anti-house is the prime example for me. They add Kris Davis and a bassist to the great trio of Laubrock, Mary and Rainey and the music falls flat. The band u saw sounds like it had it all. The Vibes player is great. I saw him with Brotz in 2011 and he was all that and more. Subtle, biting and explosive and seemingly at ease playing in duo with a legend Quote
king ubu Posted February 24, 2013 Report Posted February 24, 2013 I think I know very well what you mean, Steve ... I saw Ingrid Laubrocks large Sleepthief band, too, and that was the biggest problem of the music. But none of that with the projects I've heard of Mike Reed's so far (ROIOs, and now this one live concert ... haven't come around to play the LP and CD I bought at the concert, but the LP is by the band I saw, so I expect it to be similar). This band combines the exuberance and joy of Sun Ra and of Chicago/AACM Jazz in general (sure, there's grief and sorrow, too, and laments) with a way of dealing with composed material that reminded me more of Mingus than of the somewhat over-controlled work of Laubrock - who plays tenor on the LP instead of Matt Bauder, btw. That same Bauder was one of the biggest surprises for me in the concert, as I'd seen him before once (I think with Taylor Ho Bynum's sextet w/Halvorson, too), and he left a somewhat too controlled impression on me back then, as well ... none of that last night! He was raunchy, bold, and he played the largest part in a tune that really reminded me of Mingus, "Blues & Roots"/"Ah Um" perdiod, at its finest. What I also enjoyed very much (though I overheard Irene Schweizer in the break saying that two drummers were never really needed) was the twin-drumming of Reed and Fujiwara. The later may be the more sophisticated player, breaking up the beat in a more complex way, but Reed just feels great. Together, they stirred up an amazing swing that made me think of Klook doing his stomping thing during the heyday of the Clarke-Boland Big Band with Kenny Clare. Obviously, the style of Reed and Fujiwara is somewhat different, but that infectuously grooving and stomping beat was there just as it was with Klook/Clare (whom I only know, alas, from records and some videos). Anyway, one point of distinction may be Chicago vs. New York ... controlled exuberance vs. occasionally exaggerated control, maybe? I really wish I could see Chicago musicians more often, Ernest Dawkins, Kahil El'Zabar etc ... no matter if they "in" or "out" (actually, what I love so much about Chicago's jazz is that often it's both at the same time), they just convey a deep love for tradition that allows them to somehow dig deeper into music. Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Yeah sometimes the idea with some of the NYC downtowners seems to be interested to "show" the compositional aspect rather than letting loose a bit more and letting the music take over. I've heard it in Kris Davis quintet, Mary's sextet and Angelica Sanchez's quintet as well. Good news is that Mat Maneri is playing in a quintet in April with Randy Peterson with a couple of musicians I don't know and I doubt there will be any of that. Maybe some micro improvising and heavy tension but Mat and Randy always let it really roar from time to time. Plus I repeat that Rainey Mary and Ingrid as a trio were as great as any band I've seen in the past couple of years as they referred to compositions/themes but had no charts and the music was amazing. Rainey was inspired, free and played some of the deepest intense grooves I've ever heard him play. Mary was better than in her sextet and Ingrid was almost Paul Dunmall on tenor! Edited February 25, 2013 by Steve Reynolds Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) (Not my picture) Richard Thompson in wonderful form - the trio format works brilliantly for him. No clutter, lots of guitar. Even a Hendrix-version 'Hey Joe' towards the end as 'power trio' reference. Lots from the new album mixed in with various motorcycles, walls of death, tear stained letters, Al Bowllys and the like. All played to an audience who looked much the same as the people I see at classical and jazz concerts i.e. very old (I include myself)! Worth catching on his UK dates; he's then doing a run through various stockades in the colonies. Edited March 2, 2013 by A Lark Ascending Quote
BFrank Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Excellent - nice shot, too! I'm seeing him in Austin in about a week and a half. Edited March 7, 2013 by BFrank Quote
mr jazz Posted March 4, 2013 Report Posted March 4, 2013 Planning to catch a set or two of the Bohemian Caverns Orchestra tonight. Anyone see them lately? Quote
kh1958 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Posted March 6, 2013 This evening, Jean Michel Pilc at the University of North Texas, Kenton Hall. That was a wonderful concert, with an incredibly attentive audience. Quote
Justin V Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I saw Jack DeJohnette at Manchester Craftsmen's Guild last weekend. You can stream the set that I attended here: http://mcgjazz.org/_wp/ (Click on the little banner with DeJohnette). It was a decidedly funky set. DeJohnette is is celebrating his 70th birthday at the top of his game. EDIT: MCG will also be streaming the Lewis Nash/Steve Wilson duo on March 16th at 9:30 PM, a surprise archive concert on April 3rd at 8 PM, and the Brecker Brothers Reunion Band on April 12th at 9:30 PM. Edited March 8, 2013 by Justin V Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Mark Lockheart's 'Ellington in Anticipation' band in Sheffield. The concert of the new CD - wonderfully quirky arrangements of well known Ellington tunes. Respectful but different. A tremendous version of 'I'm Beginning To See The Light' that sounded like it came out of a New York loft in the 70s. Sadly, not on the CD. Quote
ejp626 Posted March 9, 2013 Report Posted March 9, 2013 Rudresh Mahanthappa: Gamak Hope it is great. Haven't seen Rudresh in quite a while. Don't think he heads this way that often... I am off to see Mahan Esfahani play Bach's Goldberg Variations on harpsichord. Mostly I hope they don't stick an intermission in there. Quote
jeffcrom Posted March 12, 2013 Report Posted March 12, 2013 Jim Cullum with a quartet at Tucker's, a tiny club within walking distance of my hotel in San Antonio. I wasn't sure whether it would be worthwhile, or just corny revivalism - but I really enjoyed it. They played some tunes that I've never heard anyone play live before, like "Sweetie Dear" and Ellington's "Morning Glory." I was particularly impressed with pianist John Sheridan, whose playing was somewhat touched by Teddy Wilson. Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 Saturday Night @ my favorite place - Cornelia Street Cafe: Saturday, Mar 16 - 9:00PM & 10:30PM TONY MALABY'S READING BANDTony Malaby, tenor sax; Ralph Alessi, trumpet; Drew Gress, bass; Billy Drummond, drums Quote
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