scottb Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 The bad part of all this is that even if the Middle East is peaceful and the warloads and tribes and clans and factions all make peace and the gulf rigs resume production at twice the previous rate and new methods of getting oil from the Canadian soil proves lucrative beyond our wildest dreams gas will never be below $2.00 again. We will be so happy to see $2.25 by the time all this pans out and the oil companies will be more than happy to sell it for this price at huge profits. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Yeah, profiteering is a big part of this. I used to live near KC and in the 90s, gas was about $1.10 a gallon. I'm now thinking of selling my car for the price of a tank... Quote
BERIGAN Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Just saw this on Drudge... GAS SCARE HITS ATLANTA Tue Aug 2005 30 22:23:23 ET Metro Atlanta drivers are facing the possibility of paying considerably more than $3 a gallon for gas by Labor Day -- if they can get it at all, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is reporting Wednesday. The two pipelines that bring gasoline and jet fuel to the region are down -- powerless to pump as Hurricane Katrina wreaked havoc on electrical infrastructure. The metro Atlanta region generally has about a 10-day supply of gasoline in inventory, said BP spokesman Michael Kumpf. The pipelines have been down for two days. Alpharetta, Ga.-based Colonial Pipeline Co., cut off from its suppliers on the Gulf Coast, is now pumping gas from huge storage tanks, many in Powder Springs, Ga. Whether electric power can be restored to the pipeline pumps before supplies run out is "the great uncertainty ... that hangs over all of us," said Daniel Moenter, a spokesman for Marathon Ashland Petroleum, a major supplier of metro Atlanta's fuel. http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm Quote
vajerzy Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 The oil companies are the ones making the money- not the gas stations- unless the gas stations are owned by the major suppliers. The Mom and Pops get a price quote for a delivery from the terminals- who are owned by the Citgo, Chevron, etc. They mark up their gas as they see fit. The large pipelines (Transmontagne, Colonial Pipeline)supplying this area and other East Coast states originate in the Gulf area and they may be affected by Katrina. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 $39 to fill up yesterday. This is getting ugly. I've been doing more driving on my job lately too... Quote
WD45 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 I have a drive to Iowa planned for the weekend. I imagine 87 octane will be no cheaper than the $2.79 it is this morning. My driving habits have been even more "egg under the foot" than usual... Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Last night, the Boston news stations were reporting on a station in Wrentham, MA that was selling 87 octane for $3.39. They were talking to people at the pumps and they were all complaining how expensive it was to drive... a couple of them were saying this as they pumped the gas into their SUV. BTW, one of the newscasts said that SUV sales hit a record level last month. People are still buying their SUVs. My wife tells me that it's probably going to cost us over $600 per month this winter to heat the house at the current oil prices. We'll be feeling the pinch up here pretty badly soon. At least with my Prius, my gas budget won't break our bank. My wife's getting tired of filling up her Sienna mini-van to the tune of almost $50 every other week. She has me looking into the Toyota Highlander hybrid. It gets 33 mpg on the highway. Not great, but better than her 99 Sienna (which gets around 18). The thing is, we can't afford one of these Highlanders. They start at $33K! Oh well, one can dream. Kevin Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 I have a drive to Iowa planned for the weekend. I imagine 87 octane will be no cheaper than the $2.79 it is this morning. My driving habits have been even more "egg under the foot" than usual... ← Regular is $3.48 in Whitehall this morning. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 On 8th June 2005 the average price for petrol in the UK was US$5.44 per US gallon. God knows what it is today. I have to fill my car (Peugeot 206 diesel) up about every 450 miles. It costs me around £35-40. Thats $60-$68. I know the difference is basically tax; but we do look a bit mystified when we watch the USA going into a tiz about the cost of fuel. Quote
porcy62 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Yes, this is true to a certain extent, but I know that the way that I travel overseas is much different than the way that I travel in Texas. Last month I paid 1.15/liter for fuel in Germany - after all of the math, it comes out to about $5.33/gal - but I only needed the car for half the time that I was there. Two weeks of not using a car couldn't happen here in Texas unless I was flat on my back with a herniated disc. Big US cities have transport that people should/could be using, but people in, let's say, LA look at you CrAzY if you say that you're gonna walk somewhere...even if it's just to a restaurant down the street. Bicycles? Hell yes! ← Correct: for some countries it would be easier to spare gasoline with public transports, etc. On the other side: Do we really need freezing airconditioning everywhere? Do we really need cars with an gasoline average consumptions like trucks? Do we really need to use plastic for everything? Do we really etc., etc... Quote
Joe G Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Hell of a time for a band to go on the road! Quote
porcy62 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Hell of a time for a band to go on the road! ← Why don't you play live on-line on the forum, it would be great! I promise: I will not bootleg you! Quote
BERIGAN Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 I'm just glad I don't have to drive 94 miles a day like I used to..... Quote
porcy62 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) Correct: for some countries it would be easier to spare gasoline with public transports, etc. On the other side: Do we really need freezing airconditioning everywhere? Do we really need cars with an gasoline average consumptions like trucks? Do we really need to use plastic for everything? Do we really etc., etc... ← I hope that you mean "other side" in a literal sense too 'cause freezing air conditioning doesn't exist in your neck of the woods - I'm tellin ya - I walked 10 to 15 miles a day there in July and August and bicyclists, too, were everywhere! When someone did drive, it was in a smaller fuel efficient car. (There's talk of bringing the "Smart" car to the US). I guess that there are no moms with 4 kids in Europe! ← I mean that you can save gasoline in alot of ways, a part cars. In Italy we suffered a energy black out, the whole country was without electricity for 24 hours, because of airconditioning boom. Well, it was the warmest summer of the last century...anyway if you build houses with intelligence you can save energy, gasoline, in summer and winter. I am sure you could find hundred of websites about it. The point is another: when serious enviromentalists will be something different that crazy Cassandras for the guys we have voted for? Edited August 31, 2005 by porcy62 Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Hell of a time for a band to go on the road! ← I'm more worried about how much its going to cost to heat my house this winter. Quote
ghost of miles Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Hell of a time for a band to go on the road! ← I'm more worried about how much its going to cost to heat my house this winter. ← No kidding... we just bought a much bigger house. Guess I'm gonna have to insulate w/books and Mosaics... and pop out again next April. Quote
Chrome Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Here's an interesting quote I saw w/in CNN's Katrina coverage: Consumers can expect retail gas prices to rise to $4 a gallon in the near future, Ben Brockwell, director of pricing at the Oil Price Information Service, said Wednesday. "There's no question gas will hit $4 a gallon," he said. "The question is how high will it go and how long will it last?" Quote
Robert J Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Our newspaper reported this morning that $100 per barrel of oil 'is coming and it won't be the end of it' It was $1.20 Canadian/litre this morning (and rising) in Toronto so by my calculation that's around $5.40 a gallon US Quote
wesbed Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 I'm happy, for now, that my everyday car has a 4-cylinder engine. Quote
jlhoots Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Gasoline went up 20 cents a gallon here this a.m.. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Two weeks of not using a car couldn't happen here in Texas unless I was flat on my back with a herniated disc.← Back in my youth I got all my understanding of the USA from a programme called 'Wagon Train'. They got around in these: They also had this nifty thing called the Pony Express which was much more romantic than FedEx. Now surely it would be much easier to revive these than it was to invent them in the first place? Which would create an environmentally friendly way of going to see your in-laws, getting your Mosaics delvered etc. What is more wagons like the above are much more spacious than S.U.V.s. With a few solar panels you could have a sound system, DVDs for the kids etc. What is more, the family with an S.U.V. and four kids could have eight kids because there's so much more room. Which would mean there'd be no need for condoms. Which would please the Christian Right. Tomorrow I will solve the Middle East crisis. Quote
jazzypaul Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Last night, the Boston news stations were reporting on a station in Wrentham, MA that was selling 87 octane for $3.39. They were talking to people at the pumps and they were all complaining how expensive it was to drive... a couple of them were saying this as they pumped the gas into their SUV. BTW, one of the newscasts said that SUV sales hit a record level last month. People are still buying their SUVs. My wife tells me that it's probably going to cost us over $600 per month this winter to heat the house at the current oil prices. We'll be feeling the pinch up here pretty badly soon. At least with my Prius, my gas budget won't break our bank. My wife's getting tired of filling up her Sienna mini-van to the tune of almost $50 every other week. She has me looking into the Toyota Highlander hybrid. It gets 33 mpg on the highway. Not great, but better than her 99 Sienna (which gets around 18). The thing is, we can't afford one of these Highlanders. They start at $33K! Oh well, one can dream. Kevin ← The same Highlander Hybrid that upthread was still awful because it's an SUV (when you said you didn't care about the fuel economy, you just wanted people out of trucks)? Wow, hmmm, well, hmmm... Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 The same Highlander Hybrid that upthread was still awful because it's an SUV (when you said you didn't care about the fuel economy, you just wanted people out of trucks)? Wow, hmmm, well, hmmm... Paul, read what I wrote. Yes, my wife drives a Sienna van. Do I commute to work with one? No. Does she commute in Boston traffic with it? No. It's a "kid's bus". One or two mile jaunts. Maybe a 10 mile one thrown in there to bring one of daughters to a clarinet or violin lesson. BTW, the reason I want my wife in a bigger vehicle is because seemingly all of the mom-mobiles are huge SUVs. There are more than a few Hummers. 5 or 6 easy. If she's only driving down the road to drop the kids off at school and everyone else has a monster truck, she's gonna have a bigger car too. I might wish the vehicles were smaller but I ain't gonna jeopardize my family on a wish. I still don't like what we have to pay for this "priviledge" of driving a mini-van but for these short drives, it's worth it to me. Funny thing is, we only have two daughters. We really don't need the thing. Kevin Quote
sheldonm Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 $2.57 when I went out to lunch, $3.19 on the way back.......and before you ask, I wasn't gone more that 45 minutes!!! Quote
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