Jazz Kat Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Great drummer. I liked his first quintet, which produced Spectacular in 1955, w/ Jim Hall. Gongs East was alright, but kind of too subtle for my liking. You like? I bought an album called A Different Journey by his third quintet I believe, with Charles Loyd. Pretty darn good. And some of his later stuff was kind of cool. Whic period do you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I bought an album called A Different Journey by his third quintet I believe, with Charles Loyd. Pretty darn good. That's not a bad album, but the two I've heard on Impulse (Man from Two Worlds and Passin' Thru) are better IMHO. As far as earlier groups -- the live performances by the quintet with Buddy Collette and Jim Hall are excellent. It's interesting to hear a young Eric Dolphy discovering his sound on the Original Ellington Suite, though the rest of the group isn't that great. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Harold Land, Gabor Szabo, Albert Stinson, & Chico - now that was a group!. Don't know if it was ever a working band, but they cut two tunes for Impulse! that makes me wish there were lots more. And Chico's trio album for PJ - now that that Running Muskrat or whatever it is is dipping into the PJ catalog, maybe we'll finally get that little gem reissued here. Then there's The Dealer - dated, as are most Hamilton albums, but in a way that is appealing rahter than annoying, as are most Hamilton albums. Then they're his solo album on Soul Note, Dancing To A Different Drummer. Darn fine stuff. Steve Potts made an album with Chico for Solid State in the late 1960s, as did Arthur Blythe & Steve Turre for BN in the early 1970s. Chico's always had an ear for talent. He and his bands are what they are, but there's usually cause to check'em out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 (edited) His best work is in the last fifteen years or so--the groups with Cary Denegris on guitar and Eric Person on saxophone--this is a great and underappreciated group. For example, Trio, Arroyo and Euphoria are three favorites with this group. I saw this group at the Knitting Factory five or six years ago before a very sparse crowd and they were superb. Edited August 7, 2005 by kh1958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted August 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I heard one of his new songs on some sampler. I believe the tune was entitled Outrageous. IDK, didnt seem that musical, but I heard he's playing great, so I'm looking for some of his newer releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 And Chico's trio album for PJ - now that that Running Muskrat or whatever it is is dipping into the PJ catalog, maybe we'll finally get that little gem reissued here. Now that I finally got a copy of the Japanese Lp reissue of this .... it will be reissued on a LoneHill CD under Jim Hall's name (hah! he wasn't even on all the tracks), with the Hall / Red Kelly session added ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 And Chico's trio album for PJ - now that that Running Muskrat or whatever it is is dipping into the PJ catalog, maybe we'll finally get that little gem reissued here. Now that I finally got a copy of the Japanese Lp reissue of this .... it will be reissued on a LoneHill CD under Jim Hall's name (hah! he wasn't even on all the tracks), with the Hall / Red Kelly session added ..... ← The Lone Hill CD only contains the three tracks with Hall, and all of "Good Friday Blues". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 i have two chico hamilton blue note albums from the 70s. both are decent. steve turre is actually the bassist, not on trombone! i can't remember who else is on the albums-i think arnie lawrence is on at least one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 His best work is in the last fifteen years or so--the groups with Cary Denegris on guitar and Eric Person on saxophone--this is a great and underappreciated group. For example, Trio, Arroyo and Euphoria are three favorites with this group. ← A fine band. I'd add My Panamanian Friend (Soul Note) to that list, an album dedicated to the music of Eric Dolphy but with often surprising results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I confess to really liking the fifties material for Pacific Jazz, and other labels, and any of the bands with Gabo Szabor and/or Albert Stinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Chico was excellent as a "sideman" too with the likes of Tal Farlow & Gerry Mulligan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted August 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I love his brushwork and bass drum accents on Mulligan's Walking Shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Steve Potts made an album with Chico for Solid State in the late 1960s← Potts? I thought his first recorded appearances were with Alan Silva and Francois Tusques in Paris c. 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 And Chico's trio album for PJ - now that that Running Muskrat or whatever it is is dipping into the PJ catalog, maybe we'll finally get that little gem reissued here. Now that I finally got a copy of the Japanese Lp reissue of this .... it will be reissued on a LoneHill CD under Jim Hall's name (hah! he wasn't even on all the tracks), with the Hall / Red Kelly session added ..... ← The Lone Hill CD only contains the three tracks with Hall, and all of "Good Friday Blues". ← Oh - so I will get less duplication - very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Steve Potts made an album with Chico for Solid State in the late 1960s← Potts? I thought his first recorded appearances were with Alan Silva and Francois Tusques in Paris c. 1970. ← I would refer you to Hamilton's 1968 LP, Solid State SS 18043 - The Gamut, which features "Stephen Potts" on alto, along with Jan Arnett (of Booker Ervin "fame") on bass. Not in anyway reflective of Potts' work of years to come, but there he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 i have two chico hamilton blue note albums from the 70s. both are decent. steve turre is actually the bassist, not on trombone! i can't remember who else is on the albums-i think arnie lawrence is on at least one of them. ← Lawrence did play w/Hamilton, and might be on the BNs, but the altoist I remember from them is Arthur Blythe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 And Chico's trio album for PJ - now that that Running Muskrat or whatever it is is dipping into the PJ catalog, maybe we'll finally get that little gem reissued here. Now that I finally got a copy of the Japanese Lp reissue of this .... it will be reissued on a LoneHill CD under Jim Hall's name (hah! he wasn't even on all the tracks), with the Hall / Red Kelly session added ..... ← The Lone Hill CD only contains the three tracks with Hall, and all of "Good Friday Blues". ← The trio sessions with Howard Roberts are the ones that are really "interesting" to my ears. Kinda "out" in a "West Coast" way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 The trio sessions with Howard Roberts are the ones that are really "interesting" to my ears. Kinda "out" in a "West Coast" way. ← Agreed - one of the best efforts I have heard so far from Roberts. Duvivier is splendid here, too. Jim, you have that album, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 I have "a copy" of it. yes. Really am surprised that it's never been reissued at least once in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted August 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Did Chico ever record with vibes? That would of been a nice addition to his quintet. I'm finding it hard to find vibraphonists, that didnt play staight ahead jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 And Chico's trio album for PJ - now that that Running Muskrat or whatever it is is dipping into the PJ catalog, maybe we'll finally get that little gem reissued here.← Ok, Mighty Quinn is the label (memory lapse), and I emailed them about the possibility. Just got a reply: JIM, I TAKE ALL REQUESTS SERIOUSLY.IF I CAN GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO ASK FOR A TITLE, I'LL DO IT.I STARTED THIS COMPANY BECAUSE I SAW A NEED FOR TITLES THAT I LOVED,BUT MOST LIKELY WOULD NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.I HOPE I'M IN BUSINESS LONG ENOUGH TO CARRY OUT MANY WISHES. PEACE, JERRY So get them emails a crankin'! email@mighty-quinn.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Love Chico Hamilton, both the 1950s quintets with Fred Katz et. al. and the 60s group with Gabor Szabo. I am curious to know if the eastern-tinged stuff he started doing with Gabor Szabo in the early-mid 60s was ever cited as an influence on groups such as the Beatles, Yardbirds, Stones, Byrds, or others who went the eastern route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Probably the other way around, if their was an influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Probably the other way around, if their was an influence. Well, with the Gabor Szabo solo albums, you're absolutely right. But there are Chico Hamilton albums with Gabor Szabo on Impulse!, and at least one on Reprise, that were recorded circa 1962-64 and that feature some Eastern-tinged tracks. The Eastern rock stuff didn't really happen until the tail end of 1965 and peaking in 1966. So Chico was ahead of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Coltrane, anybody? "Indian music" was in the air in the early 60s, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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