Organ Cds That ARE NOT Greazzzzyyyy..

[l p]

fats waller, sun ra.

i find it hard to accept most of the blue note 1960's/70's (and other labels - what the people on this board call 'greasy') organ oriented cd's as being jazz. seems more like plain soul music than anything else. played by more competent musicians, but it's rarely jazz.

[Matthew]

Pretty much anything recorded before JOS came onto the scene. Just listened to "The Vice Pres. and the organ playing on that cd is ice rink stuff, and Count Basie was doing some of the playing on it. Does jazz ever owe a dig THANK YOU to Smith for his genius.

[randyhersom]

Would the first disc of the Curtis Amy Mosaic Select qualify? I found the playing enjoyable, blues oriented in keeping with Curtis's style but quite different from the organ style I'm used to hearing.

[A Lark Ascending]

What is this obsession with grease? Y'all work in Kentucky Fried Chicken or what?

Three non-greasy...

Monty Python:

(though even less pleasant fluids come to mind with that picture)

And Keith...

Also this...

More candle wax than grease.

Edited August 28, 2005 by Bev Stapleton

[Jim Alfredson]

How would you like to be the "page turner / organ registration switcher"? I wonder if they get more props in classical circles than just regular page turners. Does one have to attend a special school to learn the art that is page turning and/or organ registration switching?

[A Lark Ascending]

I suspect you might get thrown out of the Organ Players Guild for referring to Messiaen as a page turner!

He probably has a ruler to hand (or being a devout Catholic, one of those whips with knots in it), ready to whack her across the knuckles for every wrong note.

[GregN]

Barry "Frosty" Smith is the drummer for the organ trio I have with guitarist Denny Freeman.  He's a bad mutha.

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Randy "Frosty" Marsh plays with organissimo. He is my favorite on the album...oh wait mixin' threads....sorry.

[Jim Alfredson]

I suspect you might get thrown out of the Organ Players Guild for referring to Messiaen as a page turner!

He probably has a ruler to hand (or being a devout Catholic, one of those whips with knots in it), ready to whack her across the knuckles for every wrong note.

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Sweet! That's what I need! But instead of some old dude, it would be a really hot chick with leather and a whip and ...

... oh wait.... getting a little personal here.

I gotta go now.

[JSngry]

Starting to feel fat?

[mandrill]

Eddy Louis Trios w/Rene Thomas & Kenny Clarke & w/ Ponty & Humair

If you are into classical organ music- try one medieval dude named Jan Pieterszoon Sweelinck.

[AndrewHill]

Good Q. on whether Larry Young is greazzzzy or not, I don't personally find Larry all that greasy on 'Unity', 'Of Love and Peace', or 'Mother Ship'. He seems to be somewhat looser on 'Into Somethin',' but Sam makes sure that there's still an edge on that disk. Have not heard 'Contrasts' or 'Heaven on Earth' so I cannot comment on those, nor am I all too familiar with his Prestige or Arista material. Needless to say, Larry Young is a badazz and I have enjoyed all of the recordings that I have heard him on, in particular, the ones with Grant Green

[mikeweil]

If you are into classical organ music- try one medieval dude named Jan Pieterszoon Sweelinck.

C'mon, Sweelinck was a figure at the end of the Renaissance period until early Baroque!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweelinck

For an organ recital on the verge of modern presentation, try this

Balbastre - it rocks!

[mikeweil]

Good Q. on whether Larry Young is greazzzzy or not

I'd say he was baaad, but not that greazy - not nearly as much as the Turbanator or anybody else. But he was baaad!

(If he would have been more greazy, his two Arista LPs would have made it!)

[sal]

Good Q. on whether Larry Young is greazzzzy or not

I'd say he was baaad, but not that greazy - not nearly as much as the Turbanator or anybody else. But he was baaad!

(If he would have been more greazy, his two Arista LPs would have made it!)

I agree, and like him all the better for it.

[NaturalSoul]

Good Q. on whether Larry Young is greazzzzy or not, I don't personally find Larry all that greasy on 'Unity', 'Of Love and Peace', or 'Mother Ship'. He seems to be somewhat looser on 'Into Somethin',' but Sam makes sure that there's still an edge on that disk. Have not heard 'Contrasts' or 'Heaven on Earth' so I cannot comment on those, nor am I all too familiar with his Prestige or Arista material. Needless to say, Larry Young is a badazz and I have enjoyed all of the recordings that I have heard him on, in particular, the ones with Grant Green

I think 'Groove Street' and 'Testifyin' are extra greeeazy.

[mikeweil]

Yes, he was the greaziest on his early Prestige LPs, but chose to go for sophistication rather than the obvious - that's what makes him unique.

Thinking about it - Don Patterson was a master at matching greaze with sophistication!

[paul secor]

Up again...(after almost 2 years!)

Found this clip of Lee & Frosty.

It's the wrong song title at the top,

but still fun to see the two of them:

Lee Michaels & Frosty

Frosty played with Doug Sahm for a time - mid 80s? - and recorded with him on The Texas Mavericks: Who Are These Maked Men? (New Rose).

[NaturalSoul]

Yes, he was the greaziest on his early Prestige LPs, but chose to go for sophistication rather than the obvious - that's what makes him unique.

Thinking about it - Don Patterson was a master at matching greaze with sophistication!

I'm afraid i don't own 'Young Blues' or the Jimmy Forrest OJC with Young, i assume they're of the greazy sort, right?

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Yes, he was the greaziest on his early Prestige LPs, but chose to go for sophistication rather than the obvious - that's what makes him unique.

Thinking about it - Don Patterson was a master at matching greaze with sophistication!

I'm afraid i don't own 'Young Blues' or the Jimmy Forrest OJC with Young, i assume they're of the greazy sort, right?

Yes - I think you need both of those

I have a VERY non-greasy organ record: "Hey Jude" by Jimmy Caravan - Vault 9007. Caravan was a member of Captain Beefheart's band. He tries a few greasy jazz tunes like "Mustang", Nat Adderley's "Cyclops" as well as Trane's "Equinox" and a few soul numbers - "Dock of the bay" & "Walk on by". But he really can't do it. It's an amazingly inept album.

MG

[mikeweil]

Yes, he was the greaziest on his early Prestige LPs, but chose to go for sophistication rather than the obvious - that's what makes him unique.

I'm afraid i don't own 'Young Blues' or the Jimmy Forrest OJC with Young, i assume they're of the greazy sort, right?

Looks like you got four (!) more CDs on your wish list:

Then there is the 2/3 album with Booker Ervin on a Prestige compilation, but that's not an indispensable item:

[NaturalSoul]

Yes, he was the greaziest on his early Prestige LPs, but chose to go for sophistication rather than the obvious - that's what makes him unique.

I'm afraid i don't own 'Young Blues' or the Jimmy Forrest OJC with Young, i assume they're of the greazy sort, right?

Looks like you got four (!) more CDs on your wish list:

Then there is the 2/3 album with Booker Ervin on a Prestige compilation, but that's not an indispensable item:

I've got 'Groove Street' and 'Testifyin' Both great! But yeah, i need forrest fire and young blues. Young Blues is on Newbury, i'm afraid i can only find Forrest Fire on concords site.

[king ubu]

Forrest Fire is very nice - I just finally got hold of a legit copy of that one a few weeks ago (part of the fegh concord frenzy).

Am I allowed to type here when my fingers are greazzzzyyyyy?

[paul secor]

I've written about this recording before, but it fits in this thread:

Dom Minasi: Quick Response - Minasi on guitar, with Kyle Koehler on organ, Mark Whitecage on alto, and John Bollinger on drums - not greazzzzyyyy but real good music.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Actually, I suppose that Jack Wilson's "The Jazz organs", with Genghis Kyle and Henry Cain also on organs, isn't really all that greasy. Though it does have "Lonely Avenue" and "One mint julep" on it, it also has "For Carl" and Alfred Newman's "Street scene" (and what film did that gem come from?). And you wouldn't REALLY expect a whole lotta grease from Wislon, would you?

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Pretty much anything recorded before JOS came onto the scene. Just listened to "The Vice Pres. and the organ playing on that cd is ice rink stuff, and Count Basie was doing some of the playing on it. Does jazz ever owe a dig THANK YOU to Smith for his genius.

What what what!!!!

Wild Bill Davis, Milt Buckner, Bill Doggett, Doc Bagby, Johnny "Hammond" Smith, Baby Face Willette, Hank Marr, Marlowe Morris, Ram Ramirez and Lou Bennett all started playing organ (and all but Smith were recorded) before JOS recorded (I may have forgotten one or two others). Probably Shirley Scott did too, and in all likelihood, to judge from his style, Mel Rhyne.

And if you don't think those guys are grease merchants...

MG