Guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 I'm so happy. i finally have it. i saw it for 40 dollars decades ago- 75 dollars a few years ago, and i found a moderately worn copy for 10.99 tonight, and this time bought it. it is the most wonderfuli record. i listened to the mint copy at the stereo store many years ago, and now i finally have a copy in my possession. who is a fan of this particular lp. is it beans only string record. i know some people criticize that stuff but it is the most splendid record ive ever heard. but no disc info is given by capitol! is it from 1956? that is my guess, or maybe '57. no personel info is listen either... Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 oh! and for you format nuts: has this ever been released on CD? if not what is delaying the release by capitol? Quote
Chas Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 Review by Scott Yanow Jazz musicians often have as one of their cherished goals the desire to record with a full string section. Hawkins, who recorded an excellent string album (The Hawk in Paris) earlier in 1956, received his wish a few times. The Gilded Hawk, last available as this LP, finds the great tenor being weighed down by Glenn Osser's muzaky arrangements for the strings. Since Hawkins does little other than caress the melodies, nothing significant happens, making this one of the most dispensable Coleman Hawkins ever. Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 who is glenn osser....and what is THE HAWK IN PARIS? Quote
brownie Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 (edited) Sorry, Lady!, 'The Gilded Hawk' is nothing to really write home about! Good solid 'with strings' session where Hawk sticks to the melodies. Much better Hawks available... Not that it's a bad one. I just like my Hawkins more adventurous! Like in The Hawk in Paris that Chas mentioned! Also Bird and Clifford Brown - among others - did so much better albums with strings. Edited February 5, 2006 by brownie Quote
JSngry Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 Glenn Osser was a successful "commercial" arranger with quite a diverse RESUME. There was one other Hawk album w/strings, this time arranged by one Frank Hunter. It was originally called The Hawk & The Hunter, and is currently available as Hawk Talk. Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 is HAWK TALK the same album as that HAWK IN PARIS album w/ strings mentioned above? Quote
Stereojack Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 As a long time Hawkins fanatic, I agree that "The Hawk In Paris" is his best strings album, on which he really plays, and that the "Gilded Hawk" and "The Hawk and the Hunter" are rather light by comparison. However, the juxtaposition of Hawk's big sound against the strings is very pleasing to these ears, and he does some nice tunes on "Gilded". Btw, here's the original cover to "The Hawk & the Hunter": Quote
brownie Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 is HAWK TALK the same album as that HAWK IN PARIS album w/ strings mentioned above? Two different albums. Coleman Hawkins recorded numerous albums during his long career. Never enough of Hawkins albums! As for 'The Gilded Hawk', don't recall having seen this released on CD! Quote
Quasimado Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 Sorry, Lady!, 'The Gilded Hawk' is nothing to really write home about! Good solid 'with strings' session where Hawk sticks to the melodies. Much better Hawks available... Not that it's a bad one. I just like my Hawkins more adventurous! Like in The Hawk in Paris that Chas mentioned! Also Bird and Clifford Brown - among others - did so much better albums with strings. Bird certainly did ... the Clifford disappoints me for the reasons quoted above. It's nice, because it's Clifford. But it could have been so much better ... Q Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 Glenn Osser did mainly MOR arrangements for singers like Johnny Mathis, Steve Lawrence & Eydie Gorme, Vic Damone & co. He also did a few things for Sam Cooke and I'm sure I remember him being credited on some Jackie Wilson singles. MG Quote
Allan Songer Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 My favorite "with strings" LP (other than Bird) is a wacky record from Bill Perkins on Liberty called 'Bossa Nova with Strings Attached." Perk LOVED this record--he and I talked about many, many times. He had a bunch of guys from the LA Philharmonic and killer players (Mel Lewis and Victor Feldman to name two). Quote
AllenLowe Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 (edited) interestingly enough, that Hawkins with strings album was Dave Schildkraut's favorite Hawk recording - Edited February 5, 2006 by AllenLowe Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 FWIW, The Hawk In Hi-Fi has a string section in the band for 8 of the original 12 tunes. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 My favourite strings album is "Warm & sonny" by Sonny Criss. Bit of a disco album but, God, does he play? (Yes, as ever, he does play.) MG Quote
Peter Friedman Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 My favorite strings album is Dizzy and Stuff Smith on Verve !!!!! Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Posted February 5, 2006 wait so bean doesnt take any SOLO on it?!? well ive heard it years ago im still gonna like it---- I WANT THAT BILL PERKINS. THERES A BUD SHANKLP CALLED BOSSA BOSSA BOSSA WHICH ALSO HAS STRINGS Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 My favorite strings album is Dizzy and Stuff Smith on Verve !!!!! Mine is Strange Strings... Quote
Allan Songer Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 My favorite strings album is Dizzy and Stuff Smith on Verve !!!!! Mine is Strange Strings... Or maybe Ornette Coleman at the Golden Circle? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 "Snowflakes and Sunshine"... :rsmile: Alan Silva Skillfulness a close second! Quote
Guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Posted March 25, 2006 The Wild Bill Davis (trumpet) with strings is quite good and funny. Trumpet growls with strings :-) Quote
jazzbo Posted March 25, 2006 Report Posted March 25, 2006 Yes, both the Columbia lps and the Storyville are great! I love listening to Wild Bill. Quote
Larry Kart Posted March 25, 2006 Report Posted March 25, 2006 There's a very nice Flip Phillips with strings album from the 1990s on Chiaroscuro, "Try a Little Tenderness," with tasty string writing from Dick Hyman. The notes explain that Flip and Hyman got together well before the date, picked the tunes, and rehearsed and taped them as a duo; then Hyman based his string writing on what the two of them had done. The results do sound unusually of a piece for a horn with strings date. Quote
marcello Posted March 25, 2006 Report Posted March 25, 2006 I have that one; I'll have to give it another listen. Quote
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