The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I wasn't intending to level charges of racism against Jefferson or Concord. I'm sorry it was interpreted that way. I can't see how ANY jazz fan can be racist. I think he had a business idea that arose from his own tastes - just as Ahmet Ertegun and Alfred Lion in their respective periods did - that affected the people he recorded. African-American jazz fans were, as Akanalog suggested, focussing on disco jazz at the time Concord was started and it seems that Jefferson's business plan reacted to that and focussed on people whom he wouldn't expect to buy that type of material, which he didn't anyway want to record. I don't blame him for any of that - I don't find that stuff of much interest, with some exceptions, of course. However, the takeover of Fantasy, many (if not most) of the important elements of which were focussed on a rather different demographic group, by an organisation with Concord's history and (post-Jefferson) revised business plan, doesn't seem to me best calculated to preserve those elements. I could be wrong; the first lot of RVGs included "Cookbook", "Honeydripper" and "Don't go to strangers". That may promise a little bit of something for music that was aimed at the African-American audience. We shall have to see. In the meantime, I'm going to carry on getting as much of the OJC stuff as I can before I can't. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montg Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 This is a microcosm of what's happening to jazz artists more generally. The corporate mergers and the resultant push to grab every last cent is hurting a lot of talented people. It's been too long since we've had a new recording from Kenny Garrett, Nicholas Payton, Stefon Harris etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hey - it's their world. How's about we all just decide not to live in it any more than absolutely necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I can't believe that this thread has detoured from...... ...and I can't believe you're shocked a thread got derailed .....when don't they get derailed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Stefon Harris has a new CD due out in August or September (I already have the advance copy). Hope lots of artists have been in touch with Terri Hinte to represent them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 so it seems something i wrote was misconstrued and it got magnificent G into trouble. he voiced some of what i was thinking-but i started it, not him. my point wasn't that carl jefferson was racist. i was just asking, because i wasn't there back then, why or how it came to be that this type of jazz (chuck flory, butch miles, warren vache, scott hamilton kind of stuff), when it came to younger guys (and most of the black guys on concord were of an earlier generation, right?) i was just wondering why it seemed to be mostly white guys who were interested in this traditionalist torch-bearing or whatever (this was a bit pre-marsalis, right?) jazz music at that moment in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 so it seems something i wrote was misconstrued and it got magnificent G into trouble. he voiced some of what i was thinking-but i started it, not him. my point wasn't that carl jefferson was racist. i was just asking, because i wasn't there back then, why or how it came to be that this type of jazz (chuck flory, butch miles, warren vache, scott hamilton kind of stuff), when it came to younger guys (and most of the black guys on concord were of an earlier generation, right?) i was just wondering why it seemed to be mostly white guys who were interested in this traditionalist torch-bearing or whatever (this was a bit pre-marsalis, right?) jazz music at that moment in time. I don't think you were off base as I understood you. Carl Jefferson started the label recording LA area guys that played at "his" festival. This was really an expanded "garden party" sort of affair and it grew. He recorded the guys he knew from the "fests" and these were LA "studio type" jazzers. He later hired a rep on the east coast to sign and record "east coast guys" and the content got younger and darker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) I had some minor dealings with Terri H. when I was writing about music 15 yr ago. She was a pleasure to deal with and treated me likeI was important even though I obviously wasn't. Edited June 30, 2006 by danasgoodstuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hey - it's their world. How's about we all just decide not to live in it any more than absolutely necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hey - it's their world. How's about we all just decide not to live in it any more than absolutely necessary? Are there no better headphones available in this man's country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I assume that's the noise-cancelling model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Interestingly, Terri Hinte shows up as the press contact on the new Sonny Rollins site. http://www.sonnyrollins.com/contact.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 She never stopped working--people of her experience and good rep are not idle for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 SEE, EVERYONE GETS SCREWED OVER. EVEN THIS CHICK WHO EVERYONE LIKED AND DID HER JOB WELL, THE STILL FIRED HER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Nat Hentoff has a nice one page article about Terri in the Nov 06 Jazz Times (w/Ornette on the cover). She deserves the props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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