bertrand Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 During the WKCR Dewey Redman tribute back in September, Ben Young said that apparently Dewey Redman and Larry Young had a gig together at Slugs' in 1968 (with Rashied Ali). Discuss.... Bertrand. Quote
JSngry Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 That could have been some really cool shit. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 You know who I wish had recorded with Larry Young a few times in the mid-to-late 60's?? Jimmy Ponder!! Quote
mikeweil Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) There's a Jeff Palmer CD on Soul Note with Arthur Blythe and Rashied Ali that might give a hint at what we missed ..... Edited November 24, 2006 by mikeweil Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Palmer is not really close to Larry, imo. Quote
erhodes Posted November 23, 2006 Report Posted November 23, 2006 During the WKCR Dewey Redman tribute back in September, Ben Young said that apparently Dewey Redman and Larry Young had a gig together at Slugs' in 1968 (with Rashied Ali). Discuss.... Bertrand. I was at that gig. Slug's had a series called "Jazz on a Sunday Afternoon" or some such where they featured acts that, for whatever reason, didn't seem to warrant a regular gig. Sam Rivers did one of those with the "New Conception" band. I remember that Steve Ellington showed up late so the first set was just Rivers and Herbie Lewis...the best Sam I ever saw in person. There was another gig with Rivers, Benny Maupin, and Bill Barron. Dewey did two of these, both trios, both with Rashied Ali on drums. Larry Young filled out the first gig. The second had a bassist...might have been Lewis again. I was surprised to see Larry on that gig. I'm not sure if "Contrasts" and "Of Love and Peace" had been issued yet. I seem to remember that I was expecting the Larry of "Unity"...progressive, but I was wondering what the fit with Dewey might be. May have been the best Dewey gig I saw, including the sets with Ornette. It was definitely tight. They played as a very tight unit...everyone very much on the same page. Dewey was like "Tarik"...flowing, linear, fee, but not super "out"...but...and memory is quite suspect here...I seem to remember that the tunes had more well defined heads than those on the BYG. Larry was a little to the left of "Major Affair" but also linear, on point with the tunes. Rashied was showing his chops...and that surprised me. The only Rashied I really knew at that point was Trane's Rashied. On this gig, he showed a little bit of a Clifford Jarvis like flair. The whole thing was a surprise...and very strong. I seem to remember that a lot of folks sat in on the second gig...Gato Barbieri...and I think that's where I saw Arthur Jones. Slugs'...does the apostrophe come before or after the s? Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted November 23, 2006 Report Posted November 23, 2006 I was at that gig. Some days, this board amazes the hold living crap out of me. And those days are indeed special days. Quote
bertrand Posted November 23, 2006 Author Report Posted November 23, 2006 Ed, Of course, you had a portable tape recorded with you that day, right? Bertrand. Quote
mikeweil Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 (edited) Palmer is not really close to Larry, imo. I know - that's why I said "a hint" .... I mentioned this because it's a rare opportunity to hear Ali with organ. Edited November 24, 2006 by mikeweil Quote
erhodes Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 Ed, Of course, you had a portable tape recorded with you that day, right? Bertrand. ...like one of those old Wollensaks...about as portable as they got in those days... I wish... No tapes...just a deteriorating memory... Quote
Guy Berger Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 There's a Jeff Palmer CD on Soul Note with Arthur Blythe and Rashied Ali that might give a hint at waht we missed ..... Mike, Is this a good album? Guy Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 Ed, Of course, you had a portable tape recorded with you that day, right? Bertrand. ...like one of those old Wollensaks...about as portable as they got in those days... I wish... No tapes...just a deteriorating memory... I assume Larry was playing organ? Quote
mikeweil Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 There's a Jeff Palmer CD on Soul Note with Arthur Blythe and Rashied Ali that might give a hint at what we missed ..... Mike, Is this a good album? Guy I find it hard to call any album "good" or "bad" as it's all a matter of taste, beyond obvious technical/musical incompetence. Palmer is pretty much a free form organist, using just simple, often nutty heads, and then wailing. I like his style,as he takes some chances that others won't, but if you expect impro over chord changes, he might be the wrong man for you. Check out any sound sample for an impression of his style; Blythe is Blythe, playing somewhat more blues drenched with Palmer than elsewhere (there is another CD with Blythe on Audioquest); Ali plays more "time" than, say, with Trane, but is much looser than most drummers in organ combos and very interactive; John Abercrombie is the fourth man, whom I like very much with Palmer: he is on most of his albums and more daring here than usual. I find Palmer is a rare example of a B3 player engaging in free style improvisation, that's why I find him interesting, and I personally like his humour etc. It's not a free jazz record, but certainly more "free" than your average Hammond record. Quote
erhodes Posted November 25, 2006 Report Posted November 25, 2006 Ed, Of course, you had a portable tape recorded with you that day, right? Bertrand. ...like one of those old Wollensaks...about as portable as they got in those days... I wish... No tapes...just a deteriorating memory... I assume Larry was playing organ? Yes. No piano or other keyboard. Quote
Clunky Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 There's a Jeff Palmer CD on Soul Note with Arthur Blythe and Rashied Ali that might give a hint at what we missed ..... Mike, Is this a good album? Guy I find it hard to call any album "good" or "bad" as it's all a matter of taste, beyond obvious technical/musical incompetence. Palmer is pretty much a free form organist, using just simple, often nutty heads, and then wailing. I like his style,as he takes some chances that others won't, but if you expect impro over chord changes, he might be the wrong man for you. Check out any sound sample for an impression of his style; Blythe is Blythe, playing somewhat more blues drenched with Palmer than elsewhere (there is another CD with Blythe on Audioquest); Ali plays more "time" than, say, with Trane, but is much looser than most drummers in organ combos and very interactive; John Abercrombie is the fourth man, whom I like very much with Palmer: he is on most of his albums and more daring here than usual. I find Palmer is a rare example of a B3 player engaging in free style improvisation, that's why I find him interesting, and I personally like his humour etc. It's not a free jazz record, but certainly more "free" than your average Hammond record. Sums the CD up pretty well, I like it too... Quote
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