brownie Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 This item has appeared on eBay: unknown Monk acetate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Wow, I think I always went to the wrong yard sales. I don't know if this is a) legit or b) truly important, but at least the guy seems to have the proper respect for it. He's not much of a photographer, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Another great discovery? Hope this goes to knowledgeable hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 This looks like a home made recording from a broadcast. Perhaps it is the 2/16/48 date which has been issued, in which case the price is ridiculous. How does one find out what's on this unless one plays it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGrubb Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 At $9,500 starting bid I or someone I trusted would need to hear it before bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 ditto for what Jack said - if this guy cares so much about the historic importance he will want to determine not only what it is - but also might want to make a dub for posterity becfore it either gets lost or disappears into some collection - and there are plenty of good transfer engineers who know how to handle something like this - of course, it could end up being someone's idea of a joke - take an old disc recorder and dub Kenny G off of a CD - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 "No idea what it is worth" -- ?? Clearly, he does, given the starting price. I hate to think the fees he'll have to eat for putting it online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Random thoughts... Whoever marked the label spelled Monk's first name "Thelonius". Was the 2/16/48 RB from the Three Deuces? (I don't see that specified in any online discogs I've checked... but I did find a clip at WNYC's site, here. An ebayer has written to the seller recommending that only distilled water be used to clean it... and he refers to it as an "LP". Extra spindle hole... would Monk sound "normal" if that one was used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 At $9,500 starting bid I or someone I trusted would need to hear it before bidding. "No idea what it is worth" -- ?? Clearly, he does, given the starting price. I hate to think the fees he'll have to eat for putting it online. And to think I won the Four Sounds Demo Acetate for just 50 cents plus shipping. What a strange world we live in. An ebayer has written to the seller recommending that only distilled water be used to clean it... and he refers to it as an "LP". I was told to use mild dish detergent and warm water, and it did wonders for the 4 Sounds acetate. The only thing you really want to do is keep the label dry, which isn't the easiest thing when you are trying to rinse the soap out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 the expert on acetates is Jack Towers, but I think he's gotten too old to do much work anymore - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with the Golden Arm Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Extra spindle hole... ? So why is that an acetate has holes around the main spindle center? Was it part of the recorder's design in order to secure and center the platter better?? $10 K - at least flip the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 So why is that an acetate has holes around the main spindle center? Was it part of the recorder's design in order to secure and center the platter better?? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 So why is that an acetate has holes around the main spindle center? Was it part of the recorder's design in order to secure and center the platter better?? Correct. I thought it was to keep the disc from slipping under the pressure of the cutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 So why is that an acetate has holes around the main spindle center? Was it part of the recorder's design in order to secure and center the platter better?? Correct. I thought it was to keep the disc from slipping under the pressure of the cutter. It does both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 it seems that no one is interested. (but no wonder, without knowing what´s on it) keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I like the comment that it "looks playable." In other words, the seller hasn't actually tried to listen to what's on it, but if you want to pay $10,000 for the privilege of being the first to do so, be my guest. If it turns out not to be Thelonious Monk, no refunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Monk is unknown by definition. That's why we love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 ... and this ebay item will stay unsold and unheard, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Look at this item recently appeared on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...rksid=p3907.m29 You can imagine my excitement when I found this ultra rare Thelonious Monk acetate in a dusty box of jazz records at a yard sale in an affluent Boston suburb. I first listed this item on Ebay last summer at a huge price and had a greater number of Ebayers interested in it than in any item I’ve ever listed. At the time, however, I had no way of providing a sample of the music. I am now able to do so. The two-sided disc, which plays for a bit more than four minutes on each side, is slightly warped and has a small amount of damage at the extreme periphery, where a bit of aluminum is showing. None of this prevented me from playing the 78 acetate and listening to it. The sound quality has the usual surface noise to which acetates are subject (and which can be removed from what I’ve read.) To listen to a 30-second clip of the acetate, you may either go to YouTube and type in “Acetate Sample” or use this link to access it: Acetate Sample Does anyone out there recognize the tune? (I’m not a jazz expert.) It’s hard to know how high the bidding on this acetate will go – but judging from the interest last time, I expect quite high. Acetate collectors were shocked, of course, when an unknown, early acetate of the VELVET UNDERGOUND brought $155,401 on Ebay! Jazz devotees will know of two other celebrated discoveries of jazz recordings – the Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker acetates discovered in Massachusetts by Dr. Robert Sunenblick of Uptown Records (see: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/31/arts/mus...agewanted=print ) and the find at the Library of Congress -- see Robert Siegel, “Unearthing Unknown Monk, Coltrane Recording” (see -- http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4946796 ) The DUODISC acetates were available in the early 1950s – so I am imagining that this recording of Monk playing at the legendary THREE DEUCES dates from that era – or earlier? In any event, this is a major opportunity for a jazz collector, recording company, or Monk aficionado. Starting bid at: $500.00 30 seconds sound sample on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L_uQ2eEpAE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 There is no WAY that that is Monk circa 1950--it would have to be a pre-bop recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Storer Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I had the same reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yea, it sounds similar to the recordings made of Monk at Minton's in the early 40s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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