AndrewHill Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 Ok, so here's another one. What does everyone think of Green's 'First Session'. I've heard from various places that Green's a little off, so I was hoping that maybe that can be confirmed or denied. The supporting cast looks superb. So is it worth picking up? Thanks, HG Quote
bertrand Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) The two bonus cuts with Sonny Clark and Butch Warren are worth the price of admission alone, and really belonged in the Mosaic box. There are some weaker points in the rest of the material, but unlike the Pizarellis 'brothers' (see the latest Jazz Times Blindfold test), I love GG so it's a no-brainer. As long as you're not paying $100 from some Amazon seller, I say get it. Once this goes OOP (if it hasn't already), this session will NEVER appear again. Bertrand. Edited June 20, 2007 by bertrand Quote
sal Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 Its OK. If you're a completist you should get it, but I don't think your life will be lacking in any way if you don't. Quote
AndrewHill Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Posted June 20, 2007 The two bonus cuts with Sonny Clark and Butch Warren are worth the price of admission alone, and really belonged in the Mosaic box. There are some weaker points in the rest of the material, but unlike the Pizarellis 'brothers' (see the latest Jazz Times Blindfold test), I love GG so it's a no-brainer. As long as you're not paying $100 from some Amazon seller, I say get it. Once this goes OOP (if it hasn't already), this session will NEVER appear again. Bertrand. I can get it used for $6 at Half Price. Quote
JohnS Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 Certainly not vintage Green but worth a listen. Quote
jazzbo Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 The two bonus cuts with Sonny Clark and Butch Warren are worth the price of admission alone, and really belonged in the Mosaic box. There are some weaker points in the rest of the material, but unlike the Pizarellis 'brothers' (see the latest Jazz Times Blindfold test), I love GG so it's a no-brainer. As long as you're not paying $100 from some Amazon seller, I say get it. Once this goes OOP (if it hasn't already), this session will NEVER appear again. Bertrand. I can get it used for $6 at Half Price. Oh yeah get it. You can say to yourself, "Wow! This is worth at least . . .8 bucks with tax!" Quote
David Ayers Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 All the usual faults, writ large. Snap it up. What? What did I say? Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 20, 2007 Report Posted June 20, 2007 Its OK. If you're a completist you should get it, but I don't think your life will be lacking in any way if you don't. I'm a GG completist, but I've got to say, that is right. But for $6? It's better than not having it. MG Quote
Sundog Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 Skip it, buy a Peter Bernstein album instead. Quote
Aggie87 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 But for $6? It's better than not having it. I agree. Get it now, because if you don't you're always going to wonder about it, and won't want to pay the high ebay etc prices later when it becomes scarce. Plus, you can certainly re-sell it on this board for that much, I'd think, if you just completely dislike it. Quote
Guest donald petersen Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 don't buy a peter bernstein album! Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 don't buy a peter bernstein album! Quote
Sundog Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 Obviously, consider each opinion carefully. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 If I dare say what DP probably meant, don't buy any imitation until you have all the originals. Quote
Guest donald petersen Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) yes chuck that is pretty much it. seems like he hasn't exhausted every grant green avenue he has an interest in, so he doesn't need to dredge for imitators yet. Edited June 21, 2007 by donald petersen Quote
Sundog Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 If I dare say what DP probably meant, don't buy any imitation until you have all the originals. Agree in principle, but don't think "all" are necessarily needed to form a balanced picture of Grant's body of work. Obviously, consider each opinion carefully. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 If I dare say what DP probably meant, don't buy any imitation until you have all the originals. Agree in principle, but don't think "all" are necessarily needed to form a balanced picture of Grant's body of work. Obviously, consider each opinion carefully. I certainly don't think you need "everything" but in this case a "first date" seems more important than anything by someone deriving a style from that artist. Quote
Sundog Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 I certainly don't think you need "everything" but in this case a "first date" seems more important than anything by someone deriving a style from that artist. Fair enough. Maybe "First Session" is better characterized as a historically important release in Grant's catalog. I don't consider Peter Bernstein a one trick pony. He certainly has his share of detractors that think that very thing. The Grant influence is real, but I think it's more of a springboard than a final resting place. ..as always... (O.K. I'll stop) Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 yes chuck that is pretty much it. seems like he hasn't exhausted every grant green avenue he has an interest in, so he doesn't need to dredge for imitators yet. Let me be upfront: I haven't heard the Grant Green album in question. Also, AFAIK, I've never heard Peter Bernstein. I also agree that all other things being equal, it's better to go to the source rather than to the imitators. That said, if this is an n-th tier GG album, I don't see any reason to recommend it over presumably superior work by Bernstein (assuming it exists). Guy Quote
Dan Gould Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 Peter Bernstein is a fine guitarist, and hardly a slavish imitator of Grant. Or perhaps no one should listen to the "Vice Prez" unless he's heard all of Lester Young's recordings? Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 Got it, but then I am a GG completist. Enjoyed it quite a bit, but I think I can hear why it wasn't issued initially (lack of gel and some rough edges and not quite adding up as an album). Well worth anything under $10, but probably no more... Quote
Shawn Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 It's worth having, not essential by any stretch of the imagination...but with that lineup you can't go horribly wrong. You can see why it wasn't originally released, but I've heard far worse sessions than this. I thought the name for this reissue should have been: Grant Green - Bottom Of The Barrel. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 It's worth having, not essential by any stretch of the imagination...but with that lineup you can't go horribly wrong. You can see why it wasn't originally released, but I've heard far worse sessions than this. I thought the name for this reissue should have been: Grant Green - Bottom Of The Barrel. It certainly isn't bottom of the barrel stuff. In GG terms, that's "Shades of Green", "The final comedown" and "The main attraction". I'd put it at about the level of "Goin' west". MG Quote
Shawn Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 It was a joke. It's not "quite" bottom of the barrel, but it's definitely not top shelf. Quote
WD45 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 If I dare say what DP probably meant, don't buy any imitation until you have all the originals. Including Main Attraction and The Final Comedown, too. Quote
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