Woman killed boyfriend over porn

[ejp626]

Odd story from Chicago:

Woman killed boyfriend over porn: prosecutors

October 3, 2007

A Chicago woman killed her live-in boyfriend after finding his porn stash, prosecutors alleged Tuesday.

Jeanette Strowder, 58, faces first-degree murder charges in the shooting death of Jesse Martin, 54. The shooting occurred after Strowder found CDs in their apartment that contained nude photographs of women, prosecutors said.

Strowder confronted Martin about the photos, said assistant state's attorney Tracy Stanker. "The defendant then got a gun and shot the victim multiple times," Stanker said.

When police arrived at the couple's home in the 5300 block of South Shields, Strowder pointed a gun at her head and then at officers, Stanker said. Strowder later gave a statement admitting to shooting Martin.

Eric Herman

[Alexander]

Yikes! Of course, if you're going to shoot a guy over porn, you're going to have to shoot a LOT of guys.

[catesta]

That must have been some stash.

[Chuck Nessa]

Was he a member here?

[BruceH]

A porn stash to die for.

[rockefeller center]

Was he a member here?

PFunkJazz?

[Dan Gould]

Even worse if she found the stash of junk food with the stash of porn. That would be the Organissimo perfect storm of reasons to kill your significant other.

[Achtung Dr. Freud Calling]

When police arrived at the couple's home in the 5300 block of South Shields, Strowder pointed a gun at her head and then at officers, Stanker said.

This the first recorded incident of cops not quickly responding by emptying ten 9mm clips into her?

[AllenLowe]

actually, tits to die for - literally -

[porcy62]

Does the Sexy Covers thread count?

[MoGrubb]

Epitaph: Here lies Jesse Martin, 54; no more spanking the monkey.

[AndrewHill]

I know some women (which I've never dated) that equate watching porn with cheating. They think you're literally having an affair.

[catesta]

I know some women (which I've never dated) that equate watching porn with cheating. They think you're literally having an affair.

That is completely ridiculous.

Same deal with getting massages. Well....., maybe they could make a case on that one.

Seriously, I have no porn stash, and although we've never discussed it, no doubt my lady would allow it.

[Jim Alfredson]

I know some women (which I've never dated) that equate watching porn with cheating. They think you're literally having an affair.

That is completely ridiculous.

Well I know in certain sects of Christianity even thinking about adultery is considered a sin and is just as bad as actually committing adultery. So therefor watching porn would make sense.

[catesta]

I know some women (which I've never dated) that equate watching porn with cheating. They think you're literally having an affair.

That is completely ridiculous.

Well I know in certain sects of Christianity even thinking about adultery is considered a sin and is just as bad as actually committing adultery. So therefor watching porn would make sense.

Yeah I know, and the Muslim faith warns of consequences that include blood shed, diseases, loss of shirt from back, and an all together miserable painful existence today and in the after life.

That said, maybe this woman was a Muslim. Nah, I doubt it.

Religous beliefs aside, I don't understand why a person would equate watching porn to cheating on your mate.

[alocispepraluger102]

http://blogs.smh.com.au/lifestyle/asksam/a...ha_brett_3.html

Why do men cheat? Why do men look at porn? Why do men ogle? Why do men wolf-whistle at anything with two legs? Because, as the old adage goes, men are visual creatures. They are allowed to do such things. It's in their nature. It's in their DNA for goodness sakes. As Germaine Greer once sniffed: "Men prefer looks to brains because they see better than they think."

So are they perverts, or misunderstood creatures?

Allan Pease has a different theory. As the author of Why Men Don't Have a Clue And Women Always Need More Shoes, by his reckoning male attraction occurs on a biological level. How it works is simple: men are attracted to women with good genes because they believe if they mate with such creatures, they can pass on the good genes to their offspring. In other words, the better looking the woman, the more likely the bloke will ogle, stare and attempt to pick her up.

Even the male fondness for bigger breasts is biological (or so the male scientists say), because they promise exceptional nutrition for future offspring ...

Pease also talks of brain researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital who showed photos of ridiculously good looking women to a bunch of blokes while monitoring their brain activity. What they found might startle and shock: the images switched on the same parts of their brains that are switched on by money and cocaine! No wonder they're so into it.

But they better beware. As Jerry Seinfeld said; "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You can't stare at it long, it's too risky. You get a sense of it then you look away."

A case in point is the tale recounted to me by US-based author Amy Dezellar of the hilarious book Dating Amy: 50 True Confessions of a Serial Dater (Warner Books). While she was working at a food convention alongside a bunch of blokes, the men decided that to pass the time they would rate every woman who walked past on a scale of 1-10 (and weren't being so generous). Then the following day, while getting her coffee at Starbucks, a creepy male coffee drinker suddenly bolted outside to ogle at a sexy-looking woman walking past. When he came back in, the barista asked him to leave because he was making women uncomfortable. From the two incidents, Amy came to a conclusion:

"I suspect that it's not just that my fellow food samplers were immature (although they were) or that the guy at Starbucks was creepy (although he was). It's that men are preoccupied with women."

"The difference between married bankers in Armani suits who don't look at women and drunk guys on the street who blatantly gawk at them is only one of social boundaries," she says. "The crazier guys just openly express what every man is thinking. One has a million-dollar home, one has a heated sidewalk grate, but their feelings towards miniskirts are identical. It's endearing in a way. Inside every man is a little pervert just begging to be booted out of Starbucks."

Interesting hypothesis, yet this got me wondering: does it work the other way around? Are women just as visual as men? Or are we attracted by something entirely different?

You wouldn't blame me for thinking so the other night while out with a couple of mates to see a local band. I couldn't help notice that all the women in the room had gone ga-ga over the lead singer. Sure I admit he was a good vocalist, (OK, he was pretty darn brilliant), but I don't think one woman was actually listening to his soulful ballads or even remotely concentrating on his handy work with the electric guitar. Because you see, this guy was a bona fide David Beckham look alike. Yep, he was smoking hot.

Of course we all soured over the humdrum reality that his gorgeous girlfriend was beaming in the audience, but nevertheless I had seen something that piqued my interest: women are perhaps just as visual as men. They might not show it as much (unless they've had a few too many champagnes), because women are masterminds at surreptitious ogling. We'd never shout out obscenities at passing gents with bulging muscles, nor outlandishly rate men walking past our coffee table from 1 to 10.

Interestingly, according to Seduction Labs, (a scientific website on seduction), women aren't as attracted to a good looking man because they're worried these types will "impregnate and leave" them.

So instead of going for men with good physical genes, women go for men who have a "tendency to stick around". And while men can generally size up a woman in seven seconds or less, for women to find out whether he's a stayer or a player generally takes a lot more time. Hence many women withhold sex till marriage or barrage him with "I love yous" in the hope that he'll say the same thing back, and mean it.

But back to ogling gents.

While I was out with a gorgeous-looking female friend and her boyfriend the other night, she caught him staring at another woman walking by. I was surprised when she laughed it all off, but then whispered this to us: "Even though they have the Porsche, it doesn't mean they can't look at the Ferrari." Can I hear an amen to that?

Do you agree that men are visual creatures? Are women as visual as men? Or are they turned on by something else?

Edited October 3, 2007 by alocispepraluger102

[BruceH]

"...men are preoccupied with women." Thank you, Captain Obvious.

[Dan Gould]

Why do men cheat? Why do men look at porn? Why do men ogle? Why do men wolf-whistle at anything with two legs? Because, as the old adage goes, men are visual creatures. They are allowed to do such things. It's in their nature. It's in their DNA for goodness sakes. As Germaine Greer once sniffed: "Men prefer looks to brains because they see better than they think."

So are they perverts, or misunderstood creatures?

Allan Pease has a different theory. As the author of Why Men Don't Have a Clue And Women Always Need More Shoes, by his reckoning male attraction occurs on a biological level. How it works is simple: men are attracted to women with good genes because they believe if they mate with such creatures, they can pass on the good genes to their offspring. In other words, the better looking the woman, the more likely the bloke will ogle, stare and attempt to pick her up.

Even the male fondness for bigger breasts is biological (or so the male scientists say), because they promise exceptional nutrition for future offspring ...

Pease also talks of brain researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital who showed photos of ridiculously good looking women to a bunch of blokes while monitoring their brain activity. What they found might startle and shock: the images switched on the same parts of their brains that are switched on by money and cocaine! No wonder they're so into it.

But they better beware. As Jerry Seinfeld said; "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You can't stare at it long, it's too risky. You get a sense of it then you look away."

A case in point is the tale recounted to me by US-based author Amy Dezellar of the hilarious book Dating Amy: 50 True Confessions of a Serial Dater (Warner Books). While she was working at a food convention alongside a bunch of blokes, the men decided that to pass the time they would rate every woman who walked past on a scale of 1-10 (and weren't being so generous). Then the following day, while getting her coffee at Starbucks, a creepy male coffee drinker suddenly bolted outside to ogle at a sexy-looking woman walking past. When he came back in, the barista asked him to leave because he was making women uncomfortable. From the two incidents, Amy came to a conclusion:

"I suspect that it's not just that my fellow food samplers were immature (although they were) or that the guy at Starbucks was creepy (although he was). It's that men are preoccupied with women."

"The difference between married bankers in Armani suits who don't look at women and drunk guys on the street who blatantly gawk at them is only one of social boundaries," she says. "The crazier guys just openly express what every man is thinking. One has a million-dollar home, one has a heated sidewalk grate, but their feelings towards miniskirts are identical. It's endearing in a way. Inside every man is a little pervert just begging to be booted out of Starbucks."

Interesting hypothesis, yet this got me wondering: does it work the other way around? Are women just as visual as men? Or are we attracted by something entirely different?

You wouldn't blame me for thinking so the other night while out with a couple of mates to see a local band. I couldn't help notice that all the women in the room had gone ga-ga over the lead singer. Sure I admit he was a good vocalist, (OK, he was pretty darn brilliant), but I don't think one woman was actually listening to his soulful ballads or even remotely concentrating on his handy work with the electric guitar. Because you see, this guy was a bona fide David Beckham look alike. Yep, he was smoking hot.

Of course we all soured over the humdrum reality that his gorgeous girlfriend was beaming in the audience, but nevertheless I had seen something that piqued my interest: women are perhaps just as visual as men. They might not show it as much (unless they've had a few too many champagnes), because women are masterminds at surreptitious ogling. We'd never shout out obscenities at passing gents with bulging muscles, nor outlandishly rate men walking past our coffee table from 1 to 10.

Interestingly, according to Seduction Labs, (a scientific website on seduction), women aren't as attracted to a good looking man because they're worried these types will "impregnate and leave" them.

So instead of going for men with good physical genes, women go for men who have a "tendency to stick around". And while men can generally size up a woman in seven seconds or less, for women to find out whether he's a stayer or a player generally takes a lot more time. Hence many women withhold sex till marriage or barrage him with "I love yous" in the hope that he'll say the same thing back, and mean it.

But back to ogling gents.

While I was out with a gorgeous-looking female friend and her boyfriend the other night, she caught him staring at another woman walking by. I was surprised when she laughed it all off, but then whispered this to us: "Even though they have the Porsche, it doesn't mean they can't look at the Ferrari." Can I hear an amen to that?

Do you agree that men are visual creatures? Are women as visual as men? Or are they turned on by something else?

Unless I missed a third person reference to himself, I don't think aloc wrote this.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Unless I missed a third person reference to himself, I don't think aloc wrote this.

I didn't think so, either, but it wasn't as clear as Aloc usually makes things, so I wasn't sure. Some of it was definitely written by person of the female persuasion.

MG

[Tjazz]

Since he had a box of porn, maybe his wife thought he had a gun in his pocket. She shot him in self-defense.

[BruceH]

Unless I missed a third person reference to himself, I don't think aloc wrote this.

I didn't think so, either, but it wasn't as clear as Aloc usually makes things, so I wasn't sure. Some of it was definitely written by person of the female persuasion.

MG

Neither did I; my Captain Obvious reference was to Amy Dezellar, the genius in the article who pointed out men's preoccupation with women. One wonders when the Nobel commitee will take notice.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

What occurred to me was that shooting the guy seemed more like a "last straw" job than a first offence, as it were. That there's more that isn't (yet) known about the situation.

MG

[Big Al]

Well I know in certain sects of Christianity even thinking about adultery is considered a sin and is just as bad as actually committing adultery. So therefor watching porn would make sense.

I'll have to ask my girlfriends about this one; I'm pretty sure my wife might disagree.

(I'm kidding, of course; it's laughable enough to think that I could get ONE girlfriend, let alone plural. Maybe if I played her my Styx records....... )

[alocispepraluger102]

Why do men cheat? Why do men look at porn? Why do men ogle? Why do men wolf-whistle at anything with two legs? Because, as the old adage goes, men are visual creatures. They are allowed to do such things. It's in their nature. It's in their DNA for goodness sakes. As Germaine Greer once sniffed: "Men prefer looks to brains because they see better than they think."

So are they perverts, or misunderstood creatures?

Allan Pease has a different theory. As the author of Why Men Don't Have a Clue And Women Always Need More Shoes, by his reckoning male attraction occurs on a biological level. How it works is simple: men are attracted to women with good genes because they believe if they mate with such creatures, they can pass on the good genes to their offspring. In other words, the better looking the woman, the more likely the bloke will ogle, stare and attempt to pick her up.

Even the male fondness for bigger breasts is biological (or so the male scientists say), because they promise exceptional nutrition for future offspring ...

Pease also talks of brain researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital who showed photos of ridiculously good looking women to a bunch of blokes while monitoring their brain activity. What they found might startle and shock: the images switched on the same parts of their brains that are switched on by money and cocaine! No wonder they're so into it.

But they better beware. As Jerry Seinfeld said; "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You can't stare at it long, it's too risky. You get a sense of it then you look away."

A case in point is the tale recounted to me by US-based author Amy Dezellar of the hilarious book Dating Amy: 50 True Confessions of a Serial Dater (Warner Books). While she was working at a food convention alongside a bunch of blokes, the men decided that to pass the time they would rate every woman who walked past on a scale of 1-10 (and weren't being so generous). Then the following day, while getting her coffee at Starbucks, a creepy male coffee drinker suddenly bolted outside to ogle at a sexy-looking woman walking past. When he came back in, the barista asked him to leave because he was making women uncomfortable. From the two incidents, Amy came to a conclusion:

"I suspect that it's not just that my fellow food samplers were immature (although they were) or that the guy at Starbucks was creepy (although he was). It's that men are preoccupied with women."

"The difference between married bankers in Armani suits who don't look at women and drunk guys on the street who blatantly gawk at them is only one of social boundaries," she says. "The crazier guys just openly express what every man is thinking. One has a million-dollar home, one has a heated sidewalk grate, but their feelings towards miniskirts are identical. It's endearing in a way. Inside every man is a little pervert just begging to be booted out of Starbucks."

Interesting hypothesis, yet this got me wondering: does it work the other way around? Are women just as visual as men? Or are we attracted by something entirely different?

You wouldn't blame me for thinking so the other night while out with a couple of mates to see a local band. I couldn't help notice that all the women in the room had gone ga-ga over the lead singer. Sure I admit he was a good vocalist, (OK, he was pretty darn brilliant), but I don't think one woman was actually listening to his soulful ballads or even remotely concentrating on his handy work with the electric guitar. Because you see, this guy was a bona fide David Beckham look alike. Yep, he was smoking hot.

Of course we all soured over the humdrum reality that his gorgeous girlfriend was beaming in the audience, but nevertheless I had seen something that piqued my interest: women are perhaps just as visual as men. They might not show it as much (unless they've had a few too many champagnes), because women are masterminds at surreptitious ogling. We'd never shout out obscenities at passing gents with bulging muscles, nor outlandishly rate men walking past our coffee table from 1 to 10.

Interestingly, according to Seduction Labs, (a scientific website on seduction), women aren't as attracted to a good looking man because they're worried these types will "impregnate and leave" them.

So instead of going for men with good physical genes, women go for men who have a "tendency to stick around". And while men can generally size up a woman in seven seconds or less, for women to find out whether he's a stayer or a player generally takes a lot more time. Hence many women withhold sex till marriage or barrage him with "I love yous" in the hope that he'll say the same thing back, and mean it.

But back to ogling gents.

While I was out with a gorgeous-looking female friend and her boyfriend the other night, she caught him staring at another woman walking by. I was surprised when she laughed it all off, but then whispered this to us: "Even though they have the Porsche, it doesn't mean they can't look at the Ferrari." Can I hear an amen to that?

Do you agree that men are visual creatures? Are women as visual as men? Or are they turned on by something else?

Unless I missed a third person reference to himself, I don't think aloc wrote this.

http://blogs.smh.com.au/lifestyle/asksam/a...ha_brett_3.html tearful apologies from aloc.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Strine! Splainzit.

MG