jazzbo Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Una Mae Carlisle, "1941 to 1945" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Una Mae Carlisle, "1941 to 1945" Errr... I don't quite get your post, Lon. Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 I thought he was making a reference to the Tuvan throat singing. Is Una Mae known for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Since you folks are talking about avant-garde jazz,could you recommend me something similar like Tony Oxley's The Baptised Traveller? It's an AMAZING album and I'd really like to hear something similar.I also recently bought Oxley's "4 Compositions for Sextet" but didn't like it very much. The two Oxley CBS records are very different from one another; "Baptised Traveller" is the most 'straight' Oxley recording I know of (not counting the Ronnie Scott and Gordon Beck dates). You might like early Spontaneous Music Ensemble records like "Challenge" (reissued on Emanem), or the Howard Riley CBS records. The first couple of Ray Russell albums ("Turn Circle" and "Dragon Hill") might hit the spot for that reflective-yet-tough freebop sound. Tenorist Alan Skidmore's "TCB," on Philips and recently cut to CD, might also be of interest. But as for Oxley, I'd give "Four Compositions" another listen, as well as his later dates for RCA-Victor, Incus and other labels. The process of his composition is interesting, especially since he revisits some of the tunes later in different contexts. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 I thought he was making a reference to the Tuvan throat singing. Is Una Mae known for that? To be honest, I don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Thanks Brownie, but "the links in your link" aren't working either, even with my firewall disabled. Anyway, according to the Verge site there's some vocalizing on the Tsahar disc; I hate that, so I think I'd better pass. Pity. The link works fine from my computer. And my computer is so work-oriented that it won't let me play the Penguin Baseball game on the Miscellaneous Non-Political Forum THAT link does not work from my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Thanks Brownie, but "the links in your link" aren't working either, even with my firewall disabled. Anyway, according to the Verge site there's some vocalizing on the Tsahar disc; I hate that, so I think I'd better pass. Pity. The link works fine from my computer. And my computer is so work-oriented that it won't let me play the Penguin Baseball game on the Miscellaneous Non-Political Forum THAT link does not work from my computer. The link in your post works fine on my computer too, it's the links on the futuraetmarge home page that don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 J.A.W. Sorry about that. The various links work fine here. Still can't play the Penguin Baseball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 I thought he was making a reference to the Tuvan throat singing. Is Una Mae known for that? I'll get the "Open Systems". I don't think I've heard any Tsahar yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 wtf is tuvan throat singing? ---------- Listening to Charles Gayle's "More Live" (Knit). Pretty exciting stuff! Though I think I like the Coltrane homage with Rashied Ali a little bit better. Found the latest Intakt Evan Parker/Barry Guy 2CD set new for 10CHF yesterday! No chance to listen yet. The booklet has an intersting interview with the two, trying to find words to explain what they're doing musically, and also just refreshing memories of how they came to know each other etc. It's this one: http://www.intaktrec.ch/guyparker-a.htm ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 (edited) Here's the cover (couldn't load it from the Intakt site directly) Edited February 19, 2004 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 wtf is tuvan throat singing? Here: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Bq09ds32ba3dg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 (edited) Listened to this one: again, and I still hate it, though this time Douglas' playing annoyed me even more than Brad Shepik's... A well-deserved Edited February 19, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 A heads-up for any fans of Guillermo Gregorio. This hatART title is still available from Cadence ($11), and is considerably more interesting than Background Music. Spun it this morning. Not a disc with a lot of "fire" to it, but engaging nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 On the Tsahar tip, I'd recommend Ein Sof (trio with Parker and Ibarra), Deals, Ideas, and Ideals (trio with Kowald and Ali), and The Hollow World (7 horns + drums). The trio set with Kowald is probably the most attention-grabbing, but all are worthwhile. The only Tsahar I have that I probably wouldn't recommend is his solo Ayn-le Any. Not a bad disc really, but there are so many other solo horn outings that I'd reach for first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 On the Tsahar tip, I'd recommend Ein Sof (trio with Parker and Ibarra), Deals, Ideas, and Ideals (trio with Kowald and Ali), and The Hollow World (7 horns + drums). The trio set with Kowald is probably the most attention-grabbing, but all are worthwhile. The only Tsahar I have that I probably wouldn't recommend is his solo Ayn-le Any. Not a bad disc really, but there are so many other solo horn outings that I'd reach for first. I haven't heard any of those....more to add to my list. I would recommend Soul Bodies vol.1, a duet session with Hamid Drake released on Ayler as well as Come Sunday, also a duet session, this time with percussionist Tatsya Nakatani, released on Hopscotch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) John, if you already like Tsahar's playing, you'll especially like those two trio recordings. The Hollow World is good too, but takes a little more getting used to. In some ways, it's like a modern (not duplicate, but extension of) Ascension, though notably without bass and piano. _______________________ For some reason, I tend to explore new music by label. Recently, I've been interested in Rastascan, but, apart from Arcana Major, don't know anything from this label's output. Any suggestions, good links? Anyone have Gebbia's People in Motion? Edited February 22, 2004 by Late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Christmas Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Oh, John, Late hipped me to Deals... about a year ago and it was some of the best hippin a hipster like Late's yet to hip. I have yet to hear any other Assif. That Birds and Blades disc(s) is truly phenomenal if you're into Guy's playing. Same ol' Evan Parker though, not that that's a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Is it just me or is Fritz Hauser a damn good drummer? I've been listening to his work with Urs Liemgrumer and, after listening to some very talented bangers, it's really nice to listen to a drummer with such a light and imaginative touch. Can anyone recommend other disks with Hauser but perhaps without Liemgruber? (Not that I don't like Liemgruber -- I DO -- I'm just wondering what Hauser sounds like without his musical blood brother.) Anyone heard Solodrumming? www.fritzhauser.ch VIDEO compliments of DRUMMERWORLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Christmas Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Can anyone recommend other disks with Hauser but perhaps without Liemgruber? Nope, they're joined at the hip. You must hear Quartet Noir, if you haven't already. And L'ENIGUEMATIQUES, or however the hell you spell that, has some of the finest percussion work I've ever heard. You probably have those already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 I don't own Solodrumming but the sound samples are pretty enticing. Here it is for $8.50. Nyess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Hauser's on Koglmann's The Use of Memory, though I suppose Koglmann's an acquired taste..... A good disc, though pretty austere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Yep Nate. L'enigmatique is exactly the disk I was listening to just prior to my Hauser post above. I also have the Quartet Noir disk but haven't had but one listen as of yet. Thanks for the links Late. I believe I'll pick up Solodrumming along with a bunch of other older but cheap Hat titles offered by Cadence. Some time in March though as my CD fund for February has been depleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 I know about depletion, or will, right after my Tanno order comes in. Oh so bitter sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Bought this one today, for a very good price at a shop closing day after tomorrow: Disc one is composed music (4 numbers), disc two has 19 free improvisation. I will report back when I heard it a couple of times. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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