*** Cecil Taylor ***

[colinmce]

56 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Cecil Taylor - piano; Bill Barron - tenor sax; Jimmy Lyons - alto sax; Henry Grimes - bass; Andrew Cyrille - drums

 

This is a most worthy set.

The sound quality is fantastic, too. I wonder why this has never had an official release? 

[JSngry]

I paid the minimal cost for the Wolgang's DL way back when. 

Who would have the rights to release it?

[clifford_thornton]

Yeah, that is super -- got it from the WV website years ago. No idea who would have the rights. Would be great to see a little CD set of other New Thing at Newport recordings -- Cecil, Bill Dixon, Paul Bley, Joe Daley...

[Pim]

3 hours ago, JSngry said:

Cecil Taylor - piano; Bill Barron - tenor sax; Jimmy Lyons - alto sax; Henry Grimes - bass; Andrew Cyrille - drums

 

This is a most worthy set.

Forgive me my ignorance on Bill Barron but I’ve always thought he was more an inside than ‘outside’ player. Very curious to hear him play with Taylor so added it to my Spotify list. Also time to dive into Bill Barrons discography.

Edited November 30, 2022 by Pim

[JSngry]

I hope you mean Barron and not Barton!

If so, enjoy!

[Pim]

7 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I hope you mean Barron and not Barton!

If so, enjoy!

😓 oops. 

[colinmce]

3 hours ago, Pim said:

Forgive me my ignorance on Bill Barron but I’ve always thought he was more an inside than ‘outside’ player. Very curious to hear him play with Taylor so added it to my Spotify list. Also time to dive into Bill Barrons discography.

He also played on CT's Love For Sale album. Barron has been quoted saying that they practiced the music for over a year just to record that one LP side. 

[colinmce]

4 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

Yeah, that is super -- got it from the WV website years ago. No idea who would have the rights. Would be great to see a little CD set of other New Thing at Newport recordings -- Cecil, Bill Dixon, Paul Bley, Joe Daley...

Definitely. Maybe someone could find a pristine soundboard recording of Trane in '66 while they're at it. 

[colinmce]

Curious new release from what looks like another new outpost of WXU's enterprise. I wonder if he plans to press these on CD or if this would be a digital-only thing. Some very intriguing potential here.

https://first-archive-visit.bandcamp.com/album/cecil-taylor-unit-live-at-fat-tuesdays-february-9-1980-first-visit

[felser]

1 hour ago, colinmce said:

Curious new release from what looks like another new outpost of WXU's enterprise. I wonder if he plans to press these on CD or if this would be a digital-only thing. Some very intriguing potential here.

https://first-archive-visit.bandcamp.com/album/cecil-taylor-unit-live-at-fat-tuesdays-february-9-1980-first-visit

Agreed, that was quite a group, but $16 for a 66-minute download?  Pass.

[clifford_thornton]

Would rather have it on CD and to that end, a CD box with all of the performances from that run.

[djcavanagh]

So would I, but I will take what we can get!

[colinmce]

I reached out to Werner and he confirmed that a CD is forthcoming next month, and there will be additional releases in the future. 

Edited March 5, 2024 by colinmce

[djcavanagh]

4 minutes ago, colinmce said:

I reached out to Werner and he confirmed that a CD is forthcoming next month, and there will be additional releases in the future. 

Wish I'd had that info ten minutes ago! Oh well...

Edited March 5, 2024 by djcavanagh

[colinmce]

On 11/30/2022 at 8:58 AM, colinmce said:

Just noticed the 1965 Newport set is now on Spotify (and other services, I assume). Details are here:

https://www.wolfgangs.com/music/cecil-taylor-quintet/audio/20020001-51297.html?tid=4844092

Not linking it, but for interested parties there is a European CD of this performance around now, inexplicably crediting Donald Byrd, Steve Lacy, Denis Charles, and Wendell Marshall as the group. Tells you rather all you need to know about the credibility of the pressing but carpe diem if you see fit. 

(inexplicable in that it's clearly not true, but this is a mish-mash of credits from the 1957 Newport recordings)

[JSngry]

Bill Barron is on that one, right?

[colinmce]

Correct, + Lyons, Grimes, and Cyrille.

[JSngry]

An All Star Lineup of The Swinging Gentlemen Of Jazz!

I got it from Wolfgang a way back. An excellent set indeed.

[romualdo]

just found this footage (German doco) of CT in Germany 1986 - has it been shown here before?

 

[clifford_thornton]

A little bird tells me that Resonance are doing a Cecil/INA set, which I understand to be the 1969 Fondation Maeght recordings. I have the Shandar LPs and am wondering if there is additional, unreleased music from that concert (or if there was another concert than the 29 July '69 "Second Act of A" performance)... there is, of course, circulating material from other gigs by the same quartet.

[JSngry]

7 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

A little bird tells me that Resonance are doing a Cecil/INA set, which I understand to be the 1969 Fondation Maeght recordings. I have the Shandar LPs and am wondering if there is additional, unreleased music from that concert (or if there was another concert than the 29 July '69 "Second Act of A" performance)... there is, of course, circulating material from other gigs by the same quartet.

Yes!

[mhatta]

8 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

A little bird tells me that Resonance are doing a Cecil/INA set, which I understand to be the 1969 Fondation Maeght recordings. I have the Shandar LPs and am wondering if there is additional, unreleased music from that concert (or if there was another concert than the 29 July '69 "Second Act of A" performance)... there is, of course, circulating material from other gigs by the same quartet.

Great news! Since Resonance reissued Albert Ayler's Foundation Maeght recording a few years ago, they should have access to Cecil Taylor's tapes too. Andrew Cyrille is in top form here, so I hope they release it while he's still alive.

The Great Concert of Cecil Taylor aka Second Act of A is my favorite Cecil Taylor. Recordings from his quartet around that time, as far as I know, are:

1969/2/8 Grinnell College, IA
1969/7/29 Foundation Maeght, France aka “Second Act of A”
1969/11/4 Copenhagen, Denmark (w/ color video!)
1969/11/5 Stockholm, Sweden
1969/11/6 Berlin, Germany
1969/11/9 Rotterdam, Netherlands aka “Cecil Taylor Quartet In Europe”
1969/11/10 Stuttgart, Germany aka “Fragments of a Dedication to Duke Ellington”

Are there any others?

 

[JSngry]

What is INA?

[clifford_thornton]

The Whitney Museum of American Art, February 1969 (before 2/15 but after 2/8, not sure the exact date).

Amsterdam, 11/7/69 -- Concertgebouw, it looks like, though my mind was telling me Paradiso...

1 minute ago, JSngry said:

What is INA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_national_de_l'audiovisuel

[JSngry]

Ok  thanks!