Artie Shaw Mosaic box

[king ubu]

Did anyone check by now if the Hot Lips Page vocal tracks are included?

[Niko]

Did anyone check by now if the Hot Lips Page vocal tracks are included?

don't know if this is what you mean - some HLP vocal tracks are included...

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.a...;copies=7%20CDs

[king ubu]

I was too lazy to compare, but it looks like the number of included HLP vocals about fits what I had in mind from reading the discographies... so they're included, as well as Tony Pastor's, but those by singers-only aren't. Doesn't bother me too much, I'll just keep the cheapo 10CD set (and maybe also the Hep 3CD set, didn't compare that one w/the Mosaic yet... I know it contains a couple of airchecks though).

[Matthew]

You wouldn't believe the requirements (demands) of the "majors" for licenses.

Which always seemed so self defeating to me. You would think the they would want to get their product out on the market and get it sold. Now, you get a situation where, to use Artie Shaw as an example, I can buy a European ten cd import, that has all that's contained in the Mosaic set, for 1/3 of the price. That's one of the reasons I think Mosaic could be a little more creative in what they put into these big band sets. However, they may not have a choice either, but heaven above, I'm being asked to shell out $117.00 plus S & H, and I'm not getting a unique product, something that is special. I know complaining is not going to help the situation, but American companies who put out music seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place right now.

Edited August 6, 2009 by Matthew

[king ubu]

The 10CD set doesn't cover all that's on the Mosaic, I don't remember where the cut-off date is, but there should be several sessions that are new on the Mosaic.

But the other point you're making, abut the majors seemingly not wanting to get their stuff out is indeed one that makes me think... probably having steady business with low but steady profit just isn't good enough to the yuppies... they want 30% or some such, otherwise it's not worth the billions spent for consultants (useless ones, of course... the whole consultancy industry is but a wart, if you ask yours truly... but back to the music now!)

[mmilovan]

How come that remastering and sound restoration engineer for this set doesn't own single turntable as sound source for his work?

It is surprise that I can see no Doug Pomeroy or any other engineer that made some other Mosaic set - in miracle sound!

[David Ayers]

The Mosaic website states that the transfers were made from the metal parts or from 'vinyl test pressings'. Is this a slip of the pen, or were test pressings indeed made from vinyl (even though the trade issues would not be)? Anyone know?

[Chuck Nessa]

The Mosaic website states that the transfers were made from the metal parts or from 'vinyl test pressings'. Is this a slip of the pen, or were test pressings indeed made from vinyl (even though the trade issues would not be)? Anyone know?

My reading of the site says "Metal part and lacquer transfers" but vinyl test pressings have been made for years (at least from the early '50s) from original metal parts.

Whatever the case, they would use the best available sources.

If you want to know about lacquer transfers, that's another techie question.

[David Ayers]

The Mosaic website states that the transfers were made from the metal parts or from 'vinyl test pressings'. Is this a slip of the pen, or were test pressings indeed made from vinyl (even though the trade issues would not be)? Anyone know?

My reading of the site says "Metal part and lacquer transfers" but vinyl test pressings have been made for years (at least from the early '50s) from original metal parts.

Whatever the case, they would use the best available sources.

If you want to know about lacquer transfers, that's another techie question.

Depends where you are looking it seems. I have this: "we've located the original metal parts and pristine vinyl test pressings". I guess it does mean what it says. The material on the set comes up to 1945 or so. I guess I am unclear about the use of vinyl pre-LP.

[ghost of miles]

Listened to the first volume of the two Shaw-Forrest Jasmine CDs last night--sound is OK, notes are fairly skimpy, but it really does seem like the best way to get all of the sides she did with the band.

[gmonahan]

I ordered the set today. I was going to wait, but self-control has never been one of my attributes.

Would like to have the Forrest stuff though. Is Collectibles still issuing discs? Maybe they'll do it. Their set of the Forrest/Goodman material is pretty good.

greg mo

[BruceH]

I wonder, is it better to get the Mosaic or Self-Portrait?

[ghost of miles]

I wonder, is it better to get the Mosaic or Self-Portrait?

Self-Portrait gives you a broad overview of Artie's entire career, including the excellent 1949 big band and the second edition of the Gramercy Five. I guess it depends on how into AS you are. If you could only get one Self-Portrait might be a better bet...but is it still readily available? I thought it had gone OOP.

I've already got a fair amount of what the Mosaic box covers, but I'll be getting the set anyway.

[colinmce]

It is OOP, as are a few Bluebird sets including the Goodman RCA Small Groups.

[mr jazz]

I wonder, is it better to get the Mosaic or Self-Portrait?

Self-Portrait gives you a broad overview of Artie's entire career, including the excellent 1949 big band and the second edition of the Gramercy Five. I guess it depends on how into AS you are. If you could only get one Self-Portrait might be a better bet...but is it still readily available? I thought it had gone OOP.

I've already got a fair amount of what the Mosaic box covers, but I'll be getting the set anyway.

let's see if mosaic SQ make this set the one

Edited August 25, 2009 by mr jazz

[ghost of miles]

Website says "early September" for shipping--anybody talked to Mosaic in the past few days & heard a more specific date? If not, I'll call Monday and see if they have an estimated shipping date yet.

[jazzbo]

According to an email sent by Mosaic, the Shaw set is shipping this week.

[ASNL77]

I've just been in touch with Scott about my recent order. He told me that the Artie Shaw sets have just been delivered to Mosaic. They'll be coming your way very soon!

[Fred]

I've just been in touch with Scott about my recent order. He told me that the Artie Shaw sets have just been delivered to Mosaic. They'll be coming your way very soon!

My set was shipped yesterday. Hope it pass under the customs...

[jazzbo]

Some already have theirs. JETman tells me the remastering sounds GREAT. I may get mine later today, but most likely tomorrow.

[gmonahan]

Arg! Where's mine? It shipped several days ago!

greg mo

[jazzbo]

Mine too. I expect mine today.

[Fred]

Some already have theirs. JETman tells me the remastering sounds GREAT. I may get mine later today, but most likely tomorrow.

Mine arrived this morning. Very fast shipping, and without custom fees. Wow! I'm listening to disc 1, just now. Very good remastering, it seems. But I want to compare with other editions, before say a definitive word.

Edited October 8, 2009 by Fred

[ghost of miles]

Loving this Shaw set, and good liners by John McDonough as well. Anybody else have a problem with "Nightmare" on disc 1 and "Prosschai" on disc 2 skipping?

[jazzbo]

No problem on my copies. . . .