randyhersom Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I was googling for the answer to the question posed by the title and came up with this link: http://nedjudy.com/jpt/ suggesting that the first was: December 18, 1944. Eroll Garner records with bassist John Simmons, and drummer Harold "Doc" West, establishing a new standard format for the jazz piano trio. Wow, that seems late. I would have guessed Teddy Wilson but the onling Discographies I have fouind are pretty weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 well, Morton did piano-clarinet-drums. depends on your definition of "bass." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Jess Stacy - Israel Crosby - Gene Krupa November 15, 1935 record session for Decca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 well, Morton did piano-clarinet-drums. depends on your definition of "bass." Bass clarinet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 well, Morton did piano-clarinet-drums. depends on your definition of "bass." The "bass" in those recording was Morton's left hand, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I love those Morton things - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Jess Stacy - Israel Crosby - Gene Krupa November 15, 1935 record session for Decca. That's surprisingly early! Were there others between 1935 and 1944? Or was that a lone prophetic recording that didn't have much impact at the time? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Count Basie made those celebrated recordings in the 30s with Jo Jones and Walter Page. Technically, it was a quartet, however, as Freddie Green was also in the mix. But I imagine that the Basie example might still have been influential on the subsequent development of the piano trio. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Jess Stacy - Israel Crosby - Gene Krupa November 15, 1935 record session for Decca. That's surprisingly early! Were there others between 1935 and 1944? Or was that a lone prophetic recording that didn't have much impact at the time? MG As a member of the Jess Stacy appreciation society, I just remembered that trio date! Have not made further research on the subject but Mary Lou Williams recorded two piano/bass/drums sessions (also for Decca) in March 1936. With Booker Collins on bass and Ben Thigpen (Ed's father) on drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Mary Lou Williams would have been my first guess, had I put my thinking cap on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Mary Lou recorded trios in 1936 and 1938. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyhersom Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I tried passing on this info to Ned Judy, the page's author, but it looks like I would have to join MySpace to do so. If anyone's already on MySpace, maybe they could drop him a note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 (edited) How about the piano-bass-guitar trio? Did it start with Tatum? That seemed to be the more dominant format until bop, and it lived on well into the fifties, especially in lounge combos (as seen in many films). Edit: Ah, I took a look at that Ned Judy page. So this format started with Clarence Profit, according to him, a name I didn't know. I also didn't know or remember that King Cole's trio predates Tatum's. Edited June 12, 2010 by Pete C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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