king ubu Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Okay, thanks! Will hand my faulty set over to someone and wanted to make sure! Quote
Kyo Posted November 25, 2012 Report Posted November 25, 2012 Would be cool to get an Art Farmer set (with the Jazztet album added). Or one for the Adams/Pullen material. Really looking forward to the George Adams box set now that it's out. The Don Pullen and Mal Waldron ones are also on my wish list. Very nice to see this series continue! Hope they'll do an Art Farmer / Jazztet set soon! Quote
Head Man Posted November 25, 2012 Report Posted November 25, 2012 I just went through like ... four pages up here (w/40 posts a page, in case) and couldn't find the info on exactly which discs of the Murray box were faulty - "Ming", it seems, "New Life", and I think there was a third? Was it "Hope Scope"? The three faulty "mono" discs were Ming, New Life & Hope Scope Does anyone know whether these are now "fixed" and if I order a set through amazon it will be OK? Quote
JETman Posted November 25, 2012 Report Posted November 25, 2012 I just went through like ... four pages up here (w/40 posts a page, in case) and couldn't find the info on exactly which discs of the Murray box were faulty - "Ming", it seems, "New Life", and I think there was a third? Was it "Hope Scope"? The three faulty "mono" discs were Ming, New Life & Hope Scope Does anyone know whether these are now "fixed" and if I order a set through amazon it will be OK? One can only assume since it's been a long while since the error was discovered and corrected. If you want to be sure that all the "bad" ones were recalled from internet retailers like Amazon, I might suggest sending an email to Cam Jazz and asking them that very question. Quote
romualdo Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) I just went through like ... four pages up here (w/40 posts a page, in case) and couldn't find the info on exactly which discs of the Murray box were faulty - "Ming", it seems, "New Life", and I think there was a third? Was it "Hope Scope"? The three faulty "mono" discs were Ming, New Life & Hope Scope Does anyone know whether these are now "fixed" and if I order a set through amazon it will be OK? One can only assume since it's been a long while since the error was discovered and corrected. If you want to be sure that all the "bad" ones were recalled from internet retailers like Amazon, I might suggest sending an email to Cam Jazz and asking them that very question. Try this email simone@camscores.com I have dealt with Simone over the past few years regarding these boxed sets - he's been very helpful Had my faulty Murray box replaced Edited November 26, 2012 by romualdo Quote
Head Man Posted November 26, 2012 Report Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) I just went through like ... four pages up here (w/40 posts a page, in case) and couldn't find the info on exactly which discs of the Murray box were faulty - "Ming", it seems, "New Life", and I think there was a third? Was it "Hope Scope"? The three faulty "mono" discs were Ming, New Life & Hope Scope Does anyone know whether these are now "fixed" and if I order a set through amazon it will be OK? One can only assume since it's been a long while since the error was discovered and corrected. If you want to be sure that all the "bad" ones were recalled from internet retailers like Amazon, I might suggest sending an email to Cam Jazz and asking them that very question. Try this email simone@camscores.com I have dealt with Simone over the past few years regarding these boxed sets - he's been very helpful Had my faulty Murray box replaced Thanks for that, romualdo Edited November 26, 2012 by Head Man Quote
erwbol Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Hello, this is my first post here. I ordered the David Murray Octet box a while ago and was shocked by the sound of Ming. I couldn't tell what was exactly wrong with it until I discovered organissimo. Luckily I was able to return the box set. I did, however, find another defect not mentioned here. I listen on headphones exclusively and on the fifth track of Home, 3-D Family, at about 6:47 I could clearly hear some digital noise (that's how I would describe it). This is not present on the original CD release of Home. Has anyone else noticed this? It would probably only be clearly noticable on headphones. I heard this once before on a badly remastered CD, the most recent issue of Charles Mingus' Changes One or Two, also not present on the original Rhino CD. My Black Saint & Soul Note collection mainly consits of Murray and Andrew Hill discs and I would love to delve into these sets, but feel I might be better of tracking down individual releases of albums that interest me instead. Overal, I think the Black Saint & Soul Note studio albums I own on CD recorded from about the time of Home onwards all sound quite wonderfull and weren't really in need of remastering. Apart from the defect mentioned above the new mastering of Home didn't strike me as an improvement, but then I'm no expert. Quote
jazzbo Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Interesting. I didn't notice that dropout, and I don't listen on headphones. I've been quite impressed with the sound of these remastered sets and when I can compare them to an earlier cd I'm happy to have the new one. . . . Welcome! Quote
colinmce Posted December 12, 2012 Report Posted December 12, 2012 Apparently Black Saint is offering some albums in 180g vinyl + CD. Jazz Loft has Ming and Old & New Dreams. http://www.jazzloft.com/p-56074-ming-180g-cd.aspx http://www.jazzloft.com/p-56073-old-and-new-dreams-180g-cd.aspx I'm upset there's no t-shirt ... Quote
webbcity Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 Still praying for a Billy Bang set... Quote
king ubu Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 the next bunch, found accidentally whilst browsing on discplus.ch - no covers, no exact date (the say "coming soon" and have a price tagged to them already): - Paul Bley (9CD / BXS 1027)- Andrew Cyrille (7CD / BXS 1023)- Art Farmer (6CD / BXS 21025)- Oliver Lake (7CD / BXS 1026)- David Murray (7CD / BXS 1024) Would that already complete Murray's run? Quote
7/4 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 I was wondering if there were more of these coming out. I'll probably get the Paul Bley box. Quote
erwbol Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 the next bunch, found accidentally whilst browsing on discplus.ch - no covers, no exact date (the say "coming soon" and have a price tagged to them already): - Paul Bley (9CD / BXS 1027)- Andrew Cyrille (7CD / BXS 1023)- Art Farmer (6CD / BXS 21025)- Oliver Lake (7CD / BXS 1026)- David Murray (7CD / BXS 1024) Would that already complete Murray's run? If it has the same hot treble mastering they needn't bother. I lost my appetite for these sets with the Murray Octet. I really need to download some of these sets to compare to some of the old CDs I own. Quote
J.A.W. Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) the next bunch, found accidentally whilst browsing on discplus.ch - no covers, no exact date (the say "coming soon" and have a price tagged to them already): - Paul Bley (9CD / BXS 1027)- Andrew Cyrille (7CD / BXS 1023)- Art Farmer (6CD / BXS 21025)- Oliver Lake (7CD / BXS 1026)- David Murray (7CD / BXS 1024) Would that already complete Murray's run? If it has the same hot treble mastering they needn't bother. I lost my appetite for these sets with the Murray Octet. I really need to download some of these sets to compare to some of the old CDs I own. I had one set, the Threadgill, and didn't like the remastered sound. Got a few of the old CDs instead. Edited July 30, 2013 by J.A.W. Quote
erwbol Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) I briefly downloaded the WSQ and compared (a while ago). It confirmed my suspicions about the hot treble. It made those early WSQ discs sound even less appealing. Some of the later discs like Andrew Hill's Shades and Verona Rag sound excellent and need no remastering. Neither does David Murray's The Hill (likely on the new set). Edited July 30, 2013 by erwbol Quote
Head Man Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 I had one set, the Threadgill, and didn't like the remastered sound. Got a few of the old CDs instead. I really like the sound on my Threadgill set which just goes to show how individual the listening experience is, I guess. Quote
J.A.W. Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 I had one set, the Threadgill, and didn't like the remastered sound. Got a few of the old CDs instead. I really like the sound on my Threadgill set which just goes to show how individual the listening experience is, I guess. The audio system does also have a bit of influence Quote
jazzbo Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 More! Yeah! I like the sound on these sets, but then again I have a treble cut circuit that is outside the signal path on my amps that helps me enjoy a lot of recordings much more than if the circuit were not there. Looking most forward to the Murray and Bley. Quote
Head Man Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) I had one set, the Threadgill, and didn't like the remastered sound. Got a few of the old CDs instead. I really like the sound on my Threadgill set which just goes to show how individual the listening experience is, I guess. The audio system does also have a bit of influence .......plus your hearing......mine's pretty poor now.......... Edited July 30, 2013 by Head Man Quote
king ubu Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Never had any issues with sound (except for the defective Murray set). Tend to hold on to older discs I have (they include "The Hill", bought from our own J.A.W. many moons ago) when I have them, to keep the liners and all .... I'm most happy the series goes on, I'm in for the music, not for the sound - haven't been around (or aware) when the entire Soul Note and Black Saint catalogues could be bought (getting the missing five or six Muhal discs was a nice test ... a couple of them could be easily found, and for good prices, but not so with a few others). Quote
Stefan Wood Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 I'm OK with the remasters as well. Looking forward to the Cyrille and Murray box sets. Quote
alankin Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 The ones I have so far have sounded fine to me. I'm interested in the Bley and Cyrille sets from the upcoming batch. I'm still considering some of the previous boxes (Cecil, George Adams, George Lewis, Muhal & Waldron). Any favorites? Quote
paul secor Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 The ones I have so far have sounded fine to me. I'm interested in the Bley and Cyrille sets from the upcoming batch. I'm still considering some of the previous boxes (Cecil, George Adams, George Lewis, Muhal & Waldron). Any favorites? I don't have the boxes, but I have all of the recordings in the Cecil box and all but one of the recordings in the George Lewis box. All very fine stuff and there's a good variety of material in the Lewis box. Actually the Cecil has some variety too - solo, duo (w. Max Roach), quartet, and larger groups. I'd say If this is your kind of thing - and you seem to have big enough ears - go for both. Quote
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