colinmce Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Looks like some easy listening there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I don't want to spoil the ending for myself - but was it those guys in the background with guns who did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 And this, the Oliver Nelson album: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Curious historical document. Not essential by any means, but interesting. At least it's not a solo drums album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmirBagachelles Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I still say this is a great, wonderful thread, offering steady good news and cheer and hope. Usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Just received a shipping notice from my Amazon Reseller that the new Clare Fischer is on it's way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I don't want to spoil the ending for myself - but was it those guys in the background with guns who did it? The album cover is a composite of these two newsphotos (the images were retouched): That's one of the four students killed in the firing. These are members of the Ohio National Guardsmen who fired shots that day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 These are members of the Ohio National Guardsmen who fired shots that day! And they seem like such nice people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Yeah, they really just want to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) I really liked this album. Exceptional? Can't say, but this is well above average, to my ears. Yeah, received the Claire Fischer in the mail. Very nice, but NOT exceptional, IMO. The Little Bird Suite is better. But thanks for making the Fischer available! Edited April 22, 2012 by Stefan Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm a little curious about the $5 price point jump on this. Is it because EMI is greedier than Sony/BMG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I paid exactly the same price for the Dixon and the Fischer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhorwich Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Stefan, Thanks buddy. I know it is not everyone's cup of tea. I was ready for that. Two critics have told me it was a work of genius and another thought it was only good. Do me a favor. Listen to track two and three and really focus in on them. Track two, Quiet Dawn, to me is a blow away. Brilliant arrangement. See what you think after several listens to that track and then let me know if it grew on you or not. I grew on me years ago and each time I listen I like it more. But that's me. But do let me know. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I love this Clare Fischer record. Inspiring some re-evaluation to come (on my part) of his other work. Thanks Jonathan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think Extensions is a great record, I've been familiar with the recording, and teh reissue is top-notch in every way. Love the sound. Another great reissue. . . three in a row, no filler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The Little Bird Suite is better. Sound samples for those who haven't heard this Pacific Jazz record can be found here and here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Stefan, Thanks buddy. I know it is not everyone's cup of tea. I was ready for that. Two critics have told me it was a work of genius and another thought it was only good. Do me a favor. Listen to track two and three and really focus in on them. Track two, Quiet Dawn, to me is a blow away. Brilliant arrangement. See what you think after several listens to that track and then let me know if it grew on you or not. I grew on me years ago and each time I listen I like it more. But that's me. But do let me know. Thanks. It is definitely his best album, but I am not a big fan of his work. I will revisit the tracks you mentioned, as there were a couple of interesting tunes. Overall it felt low key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think the "low-key" feel is part of what I love about it so. It unfolds like a flower or a beautiful evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) ..... or watching pollen accumulate on a car. Really, I'm glad this is available. Some of my disappointment comes from expectations set from the prior releases from JLH. This is definitely different. Edited April 23, 2012 by Stefan Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 ..... or watching pollen accumulate on a car. Really, I'm glad this is available. Some of my disappointment comes from expectations set from the prior releases from JLH. This is definitely different. Well at least you feel able to say you are disappointed. In fairness, JLH's hype did include a disclaimer that this might not work for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhorwich Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) I just did a huge post for all of you but of course lost it all never to be found again. I'm terrible with the blog for which I apologize. I'll try and summarize. I've lost my flow and rhythm but here goes. Stefan, I'm listening to Little Bird Suite. it makes an excellent contrast to the Fischer. Listen to track one of Little Bird and you'll see the voicing are not that original. They are good. But not brilliant. Listen to side II track one, Little Bird. The voicings are actually hackneyed. And track II side one, Bird of Paradise is very similar to Sketches of Spain. So are the voicings on Side II Track II Canto de Oriole. Very much like Evans. Whereas listen to the flute voicings of Fischer and compare with Dick Grove's work on Bird of Paradise. They aren't in the same league. I wish they were. Do you know how badly I'd love to release Little Bird Suite? It would be perfect because it gives me another reissue and I have a great line into EMI. But it is not a great album. It is very good. But too many cliches. I listened to it the first time and thought it was great. But the more I listen the more I hear from other composers and some of it like on Little Bird is downright cliched. Same with Track III of Side two, Doodad. Not original voicing and harmonizing at all. But a very good album and nice playing. Then I listen to Fischer and it is from another world, Clare's. So I do understand you liking the Little Bird Suite and that is an aesthetic reaction and choice. But objectively, they aren't in the same league. And again, I wish they were for my reissue program. Anyway, Stefan see how the Fischer grows or doesn't grow on you. But if you objectively listen to the Fischer than go to track one Side II of Grove's album, I think you'll see what I mean objectively (not aesthetically). Hope this helps a bit. Edited April 24, 2012 by JLH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Great line into EMI? Then how about this one: Your comments on Fischer are much appreciated. I don't know Fischer well yet (actually all I have is the Pacific Trios from the Mosaic Select - I enjoy those a whole lot) but you certainly make me want to check out your reissue very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 The Washington is very good. . .but it's been reissued twice in Japan, and I have a copy of each reissue, as do quite a few jazz fans. If it were coupled with the best tracks from the "unissued session" (commonly called the "Trainwreck") that would make a great reissue, but I really seriously doubt that would be possible. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yeah, well... you might be right. Still wish I had a real copy of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I just did a huge post for all of you but of course lost it all never to be found again. I'm terrible with the blog for which I apologize. I'll try and summarize. I've lost my flow and rhythm but here goes. Stefan, I'm listening to Little Bird Suite. it makes an excellent contrast to the Fischer. Listen to track one of Little Bird and you'll see the voicing are not that original. They are good. But not brilliant. Listen to side II track one, Little Bird. The voicings are actually hackneyed. And track II side one, Bird of Paradise is very similar to Sketches of Spain. So are the voicings on Side II Track II Canto de Oriole. Very much like Evans. Whereas listen to the flute voicings of Fischer and compare with Dick Grove's work on Bird of Paradise. They aren't in the same league. I wish they were. Do you know how badly I'd love to release Little Bird Suite? It would be perfect because it gives me another reissue and I have a great line into EMI. But it is not a great album. It is very good. But too many cliches. I listened to it the first time and thought it was great. But the more I listen the more I hear from other composers and some of it like on Little Bird is downright cliched. Same with Track III of Side two, Doodad. Not original voicing and harmonizing at all. But a very good album and nice playing. Then I listen to Fischer and it is from another world, Clare's. So I do understand you liking the Little Bird Suite and that is an aesthetic reaction and choice. But objectively, they aren't in the same league. And again, I wish they were for my reissue program. Anyway, Stefan see how the Fischer grows or doesn't grow on you. But if you objectively listen to the Fischer than go to track one Side II of Grove's album, I think you'll see what I mean objectively (not aesthetically). Hope this helps a bit. I brought the cd with me to work to listen. I have the lp of the Dick Grove (made a burn onto cd a while ago, can't find it at the moment -- must be in the "archives."). I promise to provide a more detailed response. I really like "Igor." There's a lot going on in that piece. As for the rest? I'll let you know, but what crept into my mind was that this music was very similar to what Shorty Rogers had done with his extended "exotic" suites, or Les Baxter, Frank Comstock, etc. That's not a put down. Fischer obviously has come from a different angle, but how much different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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