Hodge'sPodges Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'd like to confirm the pronunciation of Hod O'Brien's first name. Hawd (haw rhymes with law) or Hoed (hoe rhymes with low). Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I believe it's the first one you listed. I recall that he made an album of Cole Porter tunes entitled something like "Hod and Cole." That kind of confirms it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 As far as I know it's just "Hod" (short); sounds like the o in hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I always thought it rhymed it with "rod". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 It's rumored his next album will be titled "Hod is a God." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 or a pod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodge'sPodges Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thanks to everybody. Seems clear it is "Hawd". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I met him once and called him "Hod" as in "Hard" without the R. He did not seem to object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thanks to everybody. Seems clear it is "Hawd". "Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Unless there is a special kind of dialect involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodge'sPodges Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) "Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it? Maybe I'm missing a subtle difference, but 'rod', 'god', 'pod', 'pawed', are rhymes, no? Anyway, I mean what everyone is saying, I think. Like 'hog' but with a 'd' instead of 'g'. For that matter, as in "Hodges" as in "Johnny Hodges". Edited January 27, 2012 by Hodge'sPodges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) For that matter, as in "Hodges" as in "Johnny Hodges". Sounds like it, because nobody would refer to him as "Johnny Hawdges" (though I have no doubts there are dialects where this would be the case, but could they be any yardstick?) Edited January 27, 2012 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodge'sPodges Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) nobody would refer to him as "Johnny Hawdges"Of course not, since his name is not spelled that way, but if one wanted to make clear it is pronounced to rhyme with 'law' and not with 'low", then it seems to me clear enough to say: Pronounced Hawjes (haw, as in "hee haw", rhymes with law), not Hoejes (hoe, as in the farm tool, rhymes with low). That seems correct to me. "Haw" (rhymes with 'law') as opposed to "Hoe" (rhymes with 'low'). Edited January 27, 2012 by Hodge'sPodges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hawd and pawed and lawd has a longer and (correct me if I'm wrong, don't remember much about phonetics) more open "o", methinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodge'sPodges Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Hawd and pawed and lawd has a longer and (correct me if I'm wrong, don't remember much about phonetics) more open "o", methinks? In Merriam I see that 'pawed' and 'pod' do have a different vowell sound. On the other hand, if you say 'pawed' and 'pod' out loud, they sound very very close to me. I doubt that a native speaker would know the the difference without context in a sentence. But, to be exact then, okay, it would be better to say: 'hod' rhymes with 'pod' rather than 'hod' rhymes with 'pawed'. Edited January 27, 2012 by Hodge'sPodges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yes - that's what I meant... was too lazy to dig up my Webster's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sounded exceedingly obvious to me (though I am not a native speaker) that there IS a crucial difference between "pod" and "pawed". So any "haw" or "paw" example appeared to be rather ill-chosen to me. Just like JSngry said above: "Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it? But then again, some lingos or dialects may interfere in a big way. Just look at the way some Britons mess the vowels of their English language around (sorry, no put-down intended, but sometimes it just too clearly noticeable): The "o" in "London" is not pronounced as a very "open" vowel but comes out as "Lewndewn", or the "hat" that you wear on your head is pronounced like "hut" (as in Pizza Hut), etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sounded exceedingly obvious to me (though I am not a native speaker) that there IS a crucial difference between "pod" and "pawed". So any "haw" or "paw" example appeared to be rather ill-chosen to me. Just like JSngry said above: "Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it? But then again, some lingos or dialects may interfere in a big way. Just look at the way some Britons mess the vowels of their English language around (sorry, no put-down intended, but sometimes it just too clearly noticeable): The "o" in "London" is not pronounced as a very "open" vowel but comes out as "Lewndewn", or the "hat" that you wear on your head is pronounced like "hut" (as in Pizza Hut), etc. etc. I think people in the northwest U.S. might pronounce pod and pawed almost the same. When my friends from Oregon say lawyer I think they're saying liar. I've always said Hod to rhyme with rod, which in Brooklyn also rhymes with hard. But maybe it's pronounced Hahd, to rhyme with the Boston pronunciation of card. I don't know how anybody could have divined any consensus here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 "Lawd" is a "typcial" 19th Century African-American dialectic spelling of "Lord", often used in spirituals and such, and is usually pronounced "lawed", like "flawed" w/o the f. It comes down to the difference in sound between "aw" and "ah", "Hawd" vs "Hahd" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Rhymes with "sod." He's come through here a couple of times... is a good friend of a colleague of mine here at the station and was in town last weekend, actually. I did a long interview with him last year that I'm hoping to turn into a Night Lights show at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I did a long interview with him last year Did he talk about St. James Infirmary, the club in Greenwich Village he ran with Roswell Rudd in the mid-70s? I remember seeing Roswell, Hod, Sheila Jordan and Enrico Rava there in various combinations, usually with Wilbur Little on bass. I can't remember who would have been the house drummer. This was around the time of Flexible Flyer, but Altschul was more likely gigging with Rivers or Braxton in that period. Roswell's wife at the time, Moselle, was sort of the manager of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaro Vega Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I've had the chance to hang out with Hod and his wife. His name is pronounced like "odd" with an H in front of it. H-odd. Great guy. Very beautiful interpreter of Tadd Dameron's music, amongst others. Roswell Rudd's "God Had A Girlfriend" is a piece about a club they used to be involved with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 As far as I know it's just "Hod" (short); sounds like the o in hot. That's it. He (and Gene Allen) used to play Marshall Brown's Wed. session with us students. Hod, like Rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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